Surprisingly the Quick Poll shows a reverse of the results just a few hours later (click on the Quick Poll: the numbers are 32.96%, 41.07%, 25.97% 10/4/11:50PM). However, there are a few comments that see through the surface:
08是非常好的speaker,但不是及格的debater,连基本的辩论技巧都没有,至少从昨天的辩论中看不出来。 一个会辩论的人应该知道永远让自己处于自己的comfort zone,也就是对任何问题都是在提问之前就有答案。你无法控制对方的问题或议题,但你可以对每一个议题有基本的talk point,那么最坏情况也就是你说你的,我说我的,分不出输赢。 而一个好的辩论从来都是用一个问句作为结尾,而且这个问题你是有答案的,所以如果对方回答,就落入了你的comfort zone,其必然落入下风。如果对方回避问题,那么更是麻烦,因为评判是观众。 这些最基本的辩论技巧显然08不懂。 另外就是有两个与上届大选辩论的本质不同,就是, 第一,上届的麦肯是老实人,相信自己说的东西,不信的不会说,因此给人以stubborn的感觉,对比08的讲演活力就落下风了。两人不是在议题上分输赢,而是在给人的感觉上。 而这次08正好相反,因为罗师傅是公司executive出身,卖嘴皮子忽悠是看家本领,见人说人话,见鬼说鬼话的本性,不需要说的有理,或符合事实,而是只要让听众觉得你自信就够了。因为董事会需要干活的人有把握能自圆其说,而不在乎是否真的是那么回事,直到玩砸了才会纠正。 就是08这次的对手有非常不同的特点。 第二,08的准备显然是非常不足的,罗师傅那些张口就来的数字,其实都是扯淡,但其说出来的方式看着很自信。而这种辩论影响的是那些至今还弄个不清该投谁的票的人,也就是美国最愚蠢的一批人,对于自己的利益,和根本上的什么对国家有益的概念弄不清楚的人,因此这批人看的是气势,而不是事实,因为没那脑子。 08 miss了非常多的机会,尤其是关于医改与大政府,大政府与现在的经济危机的环境特点,减税与布希时期的结果。。。都是可以反驳罗师傅论点的致命论据武器,可惜。。。 罗师傅的辩论方式从根本上来讲,属于只有论点没有论据的辩论方式,这本来是很容易击破的,但08失去了机会。 08 is a moron,这是昨天回家后我对小老大说的第一句话。He is full of ideas but doesn't know how to execute them. 但是Romney is a self-interested chameleon,not trust wealthy。 这他妈的就是如今美国的现实。
整个辩论象选美(或比丑)乃是Style Over Substance. Let me steal sth from other people:
“it was amusing to watch president Obama cite all of the things he agreed with Romney on, while watching Romney do a much better job at pretending there were big differences.To be sure, there are some differences. Romney pledges to blow more money on military spending than Obama. Can he deliver? Probably not. At least let's hope not. On the other side of the fence, it was sickening to watch Obama pledge to waste more money on education. However, it was even more sickening watching Romney pledge to do the same thing in a different way. If Republicans really believed in smaller government, we would have it. How many years were they in control of both houses and the white house and fail to deliver? Obama pledged to close Guantanamo and stop torture. Did He? In practice, is Obama much different than Dick Cheney?”