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關於南海爭端,先看 The diplomat 今年6月的文章:

Who Is the Biggest Aggressor in the South China Sea?

http://thediplomat.com/2015/06/who-is-the-biggest-aggressor-in-the-south-china-sea/

文章中說:1996年越占24個,中國占9個。

到2015年,越占48個,中國占8個。

過去20年中國 In the past 20 years, according to the United States, China has not physically occupied additional features. By contrast, Vietnam has doubled its holdings, and much of that activity has occurred recently. The Vietnamese occupations appear to have increased from 30 to 48 in the last six years.

Between 2009 and 2014, Vietnam was the most active claimant in terms of both outpost upgrades and land reclamation, reclaiming approximately 60 acres. All territorial claimants, with the exception of China and Brunei, have also already built airstrips of varying sizes and functionality on disputed features in the Spratlys.

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另外看看其他報道:

容安瀾:(其他國家的造島工程和中國的造島工程)根本不能相提並論,根本不是在一個量級 上。其他國家的人造島礁行動應該也存在,我不是非常確定,但可能存在的情形是,其他國家對其所占據的地物以及相關聯的區域提出聲索主張也同樣是非法的。但 也有可能這些主張是合法的,因為它們處在大陸架上。但是,你不能人為的建造一個島礁然後對其聲索主權。再看看越南或菲律賓以及其他國家的(人造島礁)行 為,它們和中國的造島行為相比——用一句美國俗語來講——就是根本不是一個量級的。中國在力度上提高了很多個等級。

你看這個容安瀾,他不至於連 the diplomat都不看吧。是不是爭着眼睛說瞎話。

你看,近20年來,中國不但沒有多占,還退出了一個(從9個變成8個了),把北部灣數萬平方公里海域送給越南。
美國為什麼敢扯偏架,容安瀾為什麼敢公然胡說。不就是欺負在美華人都是些連基本事實都不明白就高談闊論的主嗎。

在看看中國在北部灣對越南的巨大讓步:http://view.news.qq.com/zt2012/blwd/index.htm

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今年4月29日:

中新社北京4月29日電(郭君宇)中國外交部發言人洪磊29日在例行記者會上表示,中方對菲律賓、越南等個別東盟國家在其非法侵占的中國南沙島礁上大興土木的非法活動表示嚴重關切和堅決反對,要求有關國家立即停止一切侵犯中國主權和權益的言行。

  28日,第26屆東盟峰會發表主席聲明,對目前正在進行的南海島礁建設活動表示關切。一些媒體認為,該聲明對東盟一些成員國長期以來在南海的大規模填海造地和軍事建設活動不置一詞。

  對此,洪磊回應,中方昨日已對東盟峰會主席聲明表明嚴正立場。

  他指出,長期以來,菲律賓、越南等個別東盟國家在其非法侵占的中國南沙島礁上大興土木,非法進行大規模填海造地,修建機場等固定設施,甚至部署導彈等進攻性武器。

  洪磊說,例如菲律賓在中國南沙中業島修建機場並進行擴建,並在該島建設碼頭等設施。菲律賓還在中業島、馬歡島和費信島等島礁建設所謂旅遊設施。菲律賓還企圖對在仁愛礁非法“坐灘”的軍艦進行加固以侵占該礁。

  據報道,20世紀70年代起,菲律賓違反《聯合國憲章》和國際法原則,非法侵占了中國南沙群島的部分島礁,包括馬歡島、費信島、中業島、南鑰島、北子島、西月島、雙黃沙洲和司令礁。

  洪磊還指出,越南在中國南沙20多個島礁實施大規模填海造地,並同步建設了港池、跑道、導彈陣地、辦公樓、營房、賓館、燈塔等大批固定設施。越南還在萬安灘、西衛灘、李准灘、奧南暗沙等建設多座高腳屋和直升機平台等設施。

  發言人表示,中國對上述非法活動表示嚴重關切和堅決反對,要求有關國家立即停止一切侵犯中國主權和權益的言行。

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我們在美國生活工作的華人,大部分都是留學出來的。查證資料,搜集原始信息的本事該有吧。為什麼在美國,就被容安瀾這種不說實話的磚家牽着鼻子走,連基本事實都懶得去查,就高談闊論呢?既然要當愚民,何必出國。

不管是什麼標準,你總不能搞雙重標準。明明是越菲搶爭議島礁並填海擴建,中國是反擊在後。可是美國當局對菲越放任袒護,中國一動,立馬揮拳。不是扯偏架,是什麼?

我在想,我們的後代會怎麼看今天的爭端。他們會批評這個混蛋政府,只知道拿槍對準人民,不知道如何維護自己的領土。可是,對於那些在海外,不管基本事實,就屁股坐到美國當局一邊的華人呢?他們難道不會對這些華人戳脊梁骨嗎?對歷史評價,共黨當然不在乎。我也不知道其他人在不在乎。反正,我是不願意留下千古罵名的。打油一首:

南海漁民大撤退,海外愚民大灌水。

屁股歪到一邊去,江東父老空流淚。

要對歷史有敬畏,莫被後人戳脊背。

官員顢頇海華愚,無力回天心有愧。


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Who Is the Biggest Aggressor in the South China Sea?

In the past 20 years, Vietnam has doubled its holdings in the South China Sea.


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In 1996, Vietnam occupied 24 features in the Spratly Islands (source).  At that time, according to the same source, China occupied nine. By 2015, according to the United States government, Vietnam occupied 48 features, and China occupied eight.

On May 13, U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense, David Shear, said this to the Senate Foreign relations Committee: “Vietnam has 48 outposts; the Philippines, 8; China, 8; Malaysia, 5, and Taiwan, 1.”

In the past 20 years, according to the United States, China has not physically occupied additional features. By contrast, Vietnam has doubled its holdings, and much of that activity has occurred recently. The Vietnamese occupations appear to have increased from 30 to 48 in the last six years.

Shear also pointed out that as of his speech, China did not have an airfield as other claimants did. He said:

All of these same claimants have also engaged in construction activity of differing scope and degree. The types of outpost upgrades vary across claimants but broadly are comprised of land reclamation, building construction and extension, and defense emplacements. Between 2009 and 2014, Vietnam was the most active claimant in terms of both outpost upgrades and land reclamation, reclaiming approximately 60 acres. All territorial claimants, with the exception of China and Brunei, have also already built airstrips of varying sizes and functionality on disputed features in the Spratlys.

 

It appears China has now built an airfield and that this was already visible in April 2015, when the Daily Mail reported that “images showed a paved section of runway 505m by 53m on the northeastern side” of Fiery Cross Reef. Now media pundits are engaged in a debate about how many acres China has reclaimed, suggesting that China has been more aggressive than Vietnam because it has reclaimed more acres.

The statement by Shear in May puts additional critical light on the suggestion of some in the United States that China is not only making “preposterous” claims but is being the most aggressive actor in the territorial disputes (see: “Intelligence Check: Just How ‘Preposterous’ Are China’s South China Sea Activities?”). Shear specifically said that between 2009 and 2014, Vietnam had been the most active. This helps us understand what Chinese military leaders mean when they say China has shown “great restraint.”

http://thediplomat.com/2015/06/who-is-the-biggest-aggressor-in-the-south-china-sea/





 
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