I don't know what kind of bs links you are giving to us. The HIV virus picture without a size bar? I know, us dumb people are easy to fool. Aren't we? They gave a lot of hiv pictures and all got debunked. Are you able to present any picture that is accepted by everyone? You have any??? Why stop discussion in a hurry? are we slowly got to the core of discussion? I am not in a hurry. Got time to wait for your reply.
About AZT, why not watch my other doucmentary. http://blog.creaders.net/mliu/user_blog_diary.php?did=98178
those are real stores, nobody made that up.
I had a very hard time to believe the doctors and researchers are doing bad thing before. It took me at least two years of research to understand that in america, there people are just there to take your money. They can't care less if their action will kill you or hurt you. They are just interested in your money.
Remember one thing. They are not going to get any money if you are healthy. They can't make nothing. They have not find one drug in the recent years that can cure anything. They only make stuff that causing problem or enlong the suffering. Don't belive me?? Then give me one drug that helped anyone. JUST GIVE ME ONE DRUG they found in recent years that is great and can cure ANYTHING.
You mean me and people read this discussion are too stupid to understand it? That might be the case. But at least you should give us a chance to read it.
This is interenet. I might be a dog hiding behind the monitor and typing away bullshit. And nobody knows.
LOL, in another article posted on this website, a guy talked how he cured or fixed an aids patient. Yet he said that most of hiv transmited by sex. hahahaha.
Anyone has a little knowledge about hiv knows that it is very very very hard to get hiv from straight sex. Yet the "doctor" said that is the number one cause.
I am not here to "win" arguement. I am here to present what I learned and hope some "expert" to show me something I have never see so that I can either correct myself or learn something new. That is my whole purpose for doing what I am doing. There is no use to bash or belittle any fellow posters.
Oh, come on? you give me science mag? what is it? a medical magzine? This magzine pimp co2, global warming bs. That is another big lie. I was going to expose if they did not ban me.
I am telling you. ALMOST EVERYTHING you learned are lies. I am going expose it, if I can.
I know you want serious discussion. Thanks for that. But you can't telling people that I am 被迷惑住了and at the same time that I can't use "LOL". It is double standards.
The reason I ask for scientific paper is that all these paper should have pier review. So I am not totally interested in the paper itself since I am not the expert in that field. So I will rely on other expert to review it. And most of the time, the results has to be reproduced. I don't know if that has been done yet. But I will look for pier review of the paper you posted. This is why we discuss. we find the info they go do more homeworks. That is how we can find the truth.
Why you are here waste your time? why you have to bash me and ask me dumb questiones. And I wonder who banned me from publish more blogs.
Why you hate the stuff I posted? You don't want people to see these info? I know someone is pushing HIV drugs here. I know china is a big market. LOL. With so much sex in china why we did not hear the highly expected "HIV" explosive growth" happen in China? why? can you explain? Why Magic Johnson no dead yet? LOL. He said he is cured. But how? why not other people get cured. Just because he is rich?
I have found every single lie they sold us have money behind it. They will not lie to us for nothing. Nobody stupid enough to do that. They do that for a reason. It is money and power behind things like this. As people can tell what you are here for. And I am sure there are many people will find what you said is very enlighten and valueable to them.
You can never full all the people all the time. I am here for those who tired of being fooled. Again. don't believe me. Do research yourself.
Tell you one way to judge and how to find the truth in modern world.
That is "FOLLOW THE MONEY"．So think about who is making all the money from these scam. And who is dying from it. If you don't understand how this works, there is nothing I can help you. I just hope one day you will see the lights. I have so much stuff I need to discover and learn. I already come to a point that I really don't care if people believe it or not.
You can ignore reality, but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
lol, since you are an expert. why don't you show me a science paper that have proven HIV virus photos. You should be able to find the pictures in real science papers instead of sky news photos. haha.
Again, do you think hiv have totally different gene sequences? the first article said that HIV mutates rapidly. so how fast? lol will that be so fast that it will mutate into something that will not hurt people before their immune system get destroyed?
There is one thing for sure. 我不是数学家.但Gauss 也不能说服我２＋２＝５．
So you believe HIV virus is different from any other retro virus? I mena you think it is in a category by itself? If not how can anti body of hiv can't kill hiv? And any other virus tested by its antibody only, besides hiv?
西狼门三: please stop the useless comments like that. You want to join the disscussion, you will be welcomed. Nobody here is forcing other people to believe anything. If you continue with that kind of comments, I will try to move it.
I know it is very hard to share truth with people. In two days, there are so many people watched these video. It is not you don't know. It is simply because they hide the truth from you. Once it opened it to you, you will see the lights right away.
I don't know why I am blocked now. No idea. no warning, no nothing. STill patiently waiting for an answer.
As said before, so far, the overwhelming majority of AIDS-like immunosuppressive diseases occur in HIV-infected persons (meaning HIV Antibody-Positive Patients). If you give them enough time to show up AIDS, you will find the connection between HIV and AIDS.
However, HIV is simple, whereas the multifactorial model of AIDS is very complex. A few AIDS persons might not be able to detect the presence of the human immunodeficiency virus, and some of them have HIV type-2. That's why researchers are working hard on this diseases ( not just on HIV).
Assays to Detect/Measure HIV Antibody-Positive Patients http://www.niaid.nih.gov/topics/hivaids/understanding/howhivcausesaids/pages/relationshiphivaids.aspx
Transfusion of HIV contaminated blood not been shown to give AIDS?
Simple, it takes time.
In a Mexican study of 39 patients given HIV+ blood, AIDS occurred in 3% of the recipients within 12 months, 50% after 29 months, 75% after 36 months, 100% after 48 months. The mean survival time after AIDS onset was 9 months.
Also. It is to be expected that there would be other causes of immune suppression and so there would be AIDS-like diseases without HIV. Nevertheless, the overwhelming majority of AIDS-like immunosuppressive diseases occur in HIV-infected persons.
1.HIV(like other viruses) is harmless after antibody immunity. 2.HIV does not kill the T-Cells it infects. 3.HIV does not infect enough T-Cells to cause AIDS. 4.HIV has no AIDS causing gene. 5.There is no such thing as a slow virus. 6.HIV is not a new virus, so it could not cause a "new" epidemic. 7.HIV fails koch's postulates... 8.AIDS has remained in its original risk groups for over 12 years. 9.The international profile of aids patients is inconsistent. 10. AIDS occurs without HIV infection. Most people with HIV never develop AIDS.
Okay. I believe that the correlations between HIV and AIDS are very striking.
To answer questions that those kind of videos MAY ask:
1. Before the appearance of HIV, AIDS-like syndromes were rare, today they are common in HIV-infected people
2. AIDS and HIV are invariably linked in time, place and population group
3. The main risk factors for AIDS are sexual contact, transfusions, IV drugs, hemophilia. These have existed for years but only after the appearance of HIV, has AIDS been observed in these populations
4. Infection by HIV is the ONLY factor that predicts that a person will develop AIDS
5. Numerous serosurveys show that AIDS is common in populations with anti-HIV antibodies but is rare in populations with a low seroprevalence of anti-HIV antibodies
6. Cohort studies show that severe immunosuppression and AIDS-defining illnesses occur exclusively in individuals that are HIV-infected
7. Persistently low CD4+ T4 cell counts are extraordinarily rare in the absence of HIV or another known cause of immunosuppression
8. Nearly everyone with AIDS has anti-HIV antibodies
9. HIV can be detected in nearly everyone with AIDS
10. HIV does fulfill Koch's postulates
11. New-born infants with no behavioral risks develop AIDS if infected as a result of the mother being HIV-infected
12. An HIV-infected twin will develop AIDS, while the uninfected twin will not
13. Since the appearance of HIV, mortality has increased dramatically among hemophiliacs
14. Studies of transfusion-acquired AIDS has repeatedly led to discovery of HIV in recipient as well as donor
15. Sex partners of HIV-infected hemophiliacs and transfusion patients acquire the virus and AIDS without other risk factors
16. HIV infects and kills CD4+ T cells in vitro and in vivo
17. HIV damages CD4 precursor cells
18. Body viral (HIV) load correlates with progression to AIDS
19. HIV is similar in its genome and morphology to other lentiviruses that often cause immunodeficiency, slow wasting disorders, neurodegeneration and death
20. Baboons develop AIDS after inoculation with HIV2 that also causes AIDS in humans
21. Asian monkeys develop an AIDS-like disase after inoculation with simian immunodeficiency virus.
