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英文回答为什么精灵要离开中土世界及一些相关问题 2016-01-31 06:06:57

以下是为女儿回答她同学的问题,由于是非华人,所以用的是英文。

要注意,这只属于轻松的,非严肃的解答。从历史的角度,有些细节可能并不严谨,(如要严谨,篇幅就太长了),有些仅仅是我自己的观点。

不过对有同样疑问的,这些回答,大致会有帮助的。


Why did the Elves have to leave the Middle Earth for the Undying Lands?

No, none of them had to, they went as they would.

In Tolkien’s earth, Arda, there are two major continents. One is the Undying Lands (a.k.a. Aman, or the Blessed Realm), where gods live; one is Middle-earth, where the children of the creator (Eru Ilúvatar) were awoken. The elder children were Elves, and because they were immortal, they suffered from bad things (evil gods, orcs, etc.) forever; the younger children were Men, who were more beloved by the creator, so he gave them a special gift – death, so that they wouldn’t have to experience eternal suffering. Out of pity for these immortal Elves, the gods called for them to leave Middle-earth for the Undying to live without suffering.

During the First, Second, and Third Ages, many Elves realized that Middle-earth was not really their home because they were tired of terrible things. Some, like Nordor, elves of Galadriel and her father's race accepted; some, like Sindar (Grey Elves), elves of Legolas and his father's race accepted but delayed leaving; some went and then came back to Middle-earth like Galadriel, for their own reasons. Most who did leave left from the Grey Havens, which is the harbour we see in the last scene of the 3rd movie.

After the War of the Ring, most Elves thought the time of the Elves was over and Middle-earth was for Men, so they (including Galadriel, Legolas, Thranduil, Elrond, etc.) finally decided to leave Middle-earth. Again, none of them “had to”, but they went as they would. Some stayed until now. People say we are now in the Sixth Age and they’ve evolved into phantoms, and that’s why nowadays people see ghosts,LOL!


How did the Elves know that the time of the Elves was over?

You remember in “The Fellowship of the Ring”, Elrond said to Gandalf, “The time of the Elves is over, my people are leaving these shores”? The simple answer is: Elrond said so, haha!

The detailed answer:

At that time, there wasn’t a concept of democracy, so people lived under monarchies. For those who had left for the Undying Lands and come back to Middle-earth (like Galadriel), they were OK with living in Middle-earth when their kings were still around, but after their last king Gil-Galad died (there was a brief scene of him in the first movie), they gradually gave up and sailed from the Grey Havens to live under the other monarch, King Finarfin (Galadriel’s father), who lived in the Undying Lands. For those who had accepted the invitation to leave but delayed it like Legolas and his father (the Grey Elves), their king had died a long time ago, so they left part by part for the Undying Lands to live under their king’s brother, another king.

So in the time of the LOTR movies, there weren’t many Grey Elves left. Most elves you saw were Wood Elves (including Evangeline Lilly’s Tauriel). They were of the same race as the Grey Elves, but separated long ago (like Finns and Hungarians, LOL!). Their king had died long ago, so they were loyal to the Grey Elves’ king, but not directly under him. They were scattered somehow. Some part of them took Legolas’ grandfather as their king and formed a kingdom. He died later, so Thranduil took over. So you see, Thranduil formerly was of no Elvish royal blood. He also “needed” to leave to seek his monarchy. So the Wood Elves also eventually needed to go.

The ones who chose to linger for a while, like Galadriel and Elrond, did so because they thought Sauron had not been completely defeated yet. After the War of the Ring, they finally thought it was over, they should leave, so almost all Elves decided to follow.


What about the Orcs, Hobbits, and Dwarves?

The Orcs had been defeated completely. The Dwarves might have been like the Neanderthals, haha!eliminated from history.

As for the Hobbits, their population was so small, so they probably also passed out from history. For thousands of years, Elves and Rangers (Aragorn’s race) had an unsaid mutual agreement to jointly protect the Shire – the Hobbits didn’t even know! When this protection was gone, they probably also failed to survive.


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作者:雪山下的绛珠草 留言时间:2016-02-05 09:35:38
矮人族估计真的是会消亡的,因为在魔戒第二集的时候,伊欧文问金厉有没有女性的矮人,金厉说几乎没有,即使以前有,现在也没有了,而且女矮人也长胡子,你分不出来是女的,伊欧文大笑
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作者:Cirdan 留言时间:2016-01-31 07:22:26
多谢沐岚,雪草也来了,:-).

我认为完全没有达到出版的水平。只是的闲来无事,小小爱好而言。加上许多细节可能仍然有疏忽。

这个历史太复杂,Too much! 在我刚开始了解时,经常访问一些英文网站,论坛。现在基本不去论坛了,为什么?因为,不少帖子一写长,错误就出来了。我完全理解他们,真是不容易,要花费很多功夫。
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作者:雪山下的绛珠草 留言时间:2016-01-31 07:03:15
非常同意沐岚姐说的,我以为可以出书了。我看LOTR是看电影,对电影很熟悉,但是没有书作为理论基础和背景知识,所以电影以外的东西知之甚少,谢谢Cirdan的博客介绍,对于我而已可以说是捷径了。
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作者:沐岚 留言时间:2016-01-31 06:57:59
你的这个系列不是一般泛泛而写的即兴博文,是具有很高的学术性的,应该是可以作为出版物的。你放到博客里发表,对我们而言已经是莫大的荣幸了。你这种经得住时间考验的文章正如我以前说过的,是为中文界了解托尔金的作品填补了空白,所以不必对一般的读者怀有期待,呵呵。我这么说希望不要扫了大侠的兴致。我目前手头有些事情做,实在不好意思,你的这个系列大部分都还没有认真读,但作为资料,以后来读是肯定的,而且会向我儿子推荐。我现在对读书有种心理障碍,读过就忘记,一点都记不住。就拿我最近在读的《西方史》来说吧,读时我非常喜欢,也读得进去,但一放下就忘记得一干二净。
有意思的是,当初买了LORT 和 The Hobbit 的书给儿子读,到后来受他的影响,我自己也非常喜欢了。
我最近在中国陪我母亲,只能偶然翻墙过来拜读朋友们的好文章,留言跟帖也是很随机的,呵呵。
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作者:Cirdan 留言时间:2016-01-31 06:37:20
多谢沐岚。
她并没有太大的兴趣,只是泛泛地。
我也觉的写像这样的东西可能对想了解这个历史的反而更有用些。
我严重怀疑我的写作是否真的有人会完全看进去。

感觉您是住在温市,怎么大周末的,怎么早就爬起来了,哈哈!
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作者:沐岚 留言时间:2016-01-31 06:26:44
简明扼要,对我等不太了解背景的人很有帮助。Cirdan 大侠,你女儿是受你的影响而喜爱 LOTR 的吧。
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