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一個亞裔都不剩下 2007-04-19 19:22:26

2001年,布什政府簽定一個跨黨派的教育法案,名字叫做No Child Left Behind Act,我的哲學課教授兼好朋友,一個研究柏拉圖的學者David嘲笑說,這個法案叫做No Chile Left Act還差不多。我覺得這是迄今他給我講過的最好的笑話。今天我要說的可以叫做No Asian Left.

Virginia Tech的校園血案爆發到肇事者被認定,全亞洲所有國家在美的僑民都提心掉膽過了好幾天,等到肇事者國籍被認定,除韓國外所有國家的國民都長長吁了一口氣。雖然Cho同學移民美國已經15年了,但是自從被認定是韓國人以後,韓國盧總統已經給小樹叢打過兩次電話了都,韓國大使還號召在美韓人輪流絕食32天。我想起小時候看過的揭露舊社會地主兇殘的小人書,上面說地主家狗死了,要農民給披麻戴孝下跪以葬父親的規格葬之,沒想到現在我有機會看個實況。我也不能不想起契訶夫的小說《小公務員之死》,在那個小說里,小公務員在劇院看戲時打了個噴嚏,擔心唾沫星子濺到前排的部長身上,他於是一而再再而三的道歉,終於部長大人被打擾到煩不勝煩,說了句“滾出去”,小公務員踉踉蹌蹌回到家,倒下就死了。我覺得應該把《項鍊》的情節加進來,比如說那個部長其實不是部長,只是看起來象部長,不過已經足以把小公務員嚇死了。這樣的死,才能比鴻毛還輕。

中國人也嚇得不輕,據有的博客說,他們都好幾天沒睡覺的說。真是太有愛心覺悟了。我今天不想說Cho小時候英語不好上課念課文被全班同學嘲笑兼起鬨“滾回中國去”的事情,也不想說那個據說是美國黑人詩人皇后的Nikki Giovanni把Cho從課堂上趕出去,在走廊見到Cho怒目而視,卻在隨後的追思會上大出風頭興高采烈的情節,也不想說美國社會動則將一切沉默的人、不合群的人打上自閉症的標籤從此將他們與“正常”社會隔絕的來龍去脈,更不願意提到Cho被要求服用抗抑鬱藥的令人髮指的事實,對於這件事情,我想說的是,Cho的“心理”問題是美國的社會問題。血洗校園的罪行是不可饒恕的,尤其是持槍面對徒手的同學,但是對於Cho來說,在他舉槍的那一剎那,一個正常人的理智已經沒有了,整個世界只剩下他和“別人”,而別人在彼時彼地,全部成為了這個社會那股壓迫力量的代表。

沒在美國呆過,沒在美國深入到社會中,是很難體會到種族這個概念的。當年關穎珊在鹽湖城冬奧會上輸給了Susan,整個美國一片興高采烈,報紙的標題是“Michell was Defeated by American!”要知道,關穎珊祖輩都已經是在美國土地上出生的地道美國人了。她唯一不美國的是她的膚色。在這個意義上,我一直不能原諒宋美齡,她最被美國人所引用的話是“The only thing the oriental about me is my face!” What a bitch!

Apprentice里的James在會見斯瓦辛格的時候就說自己是韓國人,但是他的對手仍然說“當心那個Chinese man。”對於地理不好的美國南方種棉花的紅脖子來說,即使是法國也是他們家門前那座山翻過去的那個國家,他搞得懂到伊朗人民不是阿拉伯人,南非不全是黑人嗎?何況是韓國人和中國人?

前不久,在中西部某地的一家美國人經營的中餐館,老闆別出心裁地印出了廣告:“我們所送的外賣,全是由Coolie用黃包車拉到你家門口的,我們堅持低價策略不容易啊,要知道,全世界的Chinaman都越來越不便宜了。”當地華人抗議,店主拒不道歉,堅稱這是他的美國式幽默。事件沒有下文。

槍擊事件發生後,小樹叢作恍然大悟狀在追思會上講話:

“One of the lessons of these tragedies is to make sure that when people see somebody or know somebody who is exhibiting abnormal behavior, you do something about it, to suggest that somebody take a look,” he said. “If you are a parent and your child is, you know, doing strange things on the Internet, pay attention to it and not be afraid to ask for help and not be afraid to say, ‘I am concerned about what I am seeing.’ ”

美國的憤青早在小樹叢講話以前就已經行動起來了。在美國“自由共和國”論壇上,當肇事者最初被懷疑是中國學生時,美國憤青發言了:

“Oh hell, it doesn’t matter. He was just some fella from a crappy country tryin’ to better his life, doin’ a job an American wouldn’t do, takin’ up a place at college that an American didn’t want.

As a matter of fact I believe I heard Whorealdo half-assedly blame us by saying (I’m paraphrasin’)that he was just a poor bloke from a foreign country that was just never made comfortable in our culture. We didn’t do enough to make him feel at home. Nobody held his hand and sung kumbaya........”

“There is an extreme imbalance in China because of all the baby girls who have been killed. Scroll down the above link to read about it.

Ever since I learned years ago about the female infanticide that has been going on in China, I knew that a day would come when there would be a crazed army of young men there. There wouldn’t be enough women for wives and there would be another purpose for their lives as soldiers, most likely against the U.S.”

看來華裔美人怕得有理。

小樹叢當然是有所指的。今天在科羅拉多大學,一名從麻省阿默斯特高中畢業的小孩在課堂上發表了自己對槍擊事件表示理解的觀點後,被同學報警逮捕。我想指出一點,新修訂的《愛國法案》裡有一條Ideological Exclusion,就是對於美國政府認為學術觀點不受歡迎的學者,有權利限制入境。你以為這只是說着玩的嗎?2006年2月2日的Boston Globe發表了一篇題為Shutting out a Voice for Islam的社論,社論披露,2004年8月,國土安全部吊銷了一名瑞士裔有埃及血統在Notre Dame任教的伊斯蘭宗教學者的簽證,致其無法入境去哈佛演講。如果該學者宣傳極端伊斯蘭教義倒也罷了,偏偏他恰恰是伊斯蘭世界中主張和平、容忍的非暴力伊斯蘭改革分子,當年夏天他剛剛在巴塞羅那的世界宗教大會上作過關於宗教寬容和世界和平的演講。我倒覺得,可能是美國政府擔心伊斯蘭人民聽了他的宣傳真的放下屠刀,美國軍火商就師出無名了。

這麼想想,小樹叢同學的話能不讓我感覺陰森森的麼?遙想當年也有印地安酋長要求和殖民者休戰,並且表示要做一個“好的印地安人”時,殖民軍隊的少校冷冷地說:“據我所知,所有好的印地安人都是死了的印地安人。”那以後發生的事情都成為了歷史。Cho事件後的事情,在將來的地球人看來,也將是歷史新的一頁的。

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作者:sky 留言時間:2007-04-24 10:53:08
新貼的插圖很有意思。是歷史文物吧?China Wall 在那時是指什麼?圖中表現的排華情緒,讓人感到並不完全是歷史!
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作者:usagi 留言時間:2007-04-23 12:26:39
cool

this thing is heating up ! nice !

anyway, anyone here watcted Bill O'reilly show last week ?

tell me what do u think ?

oh, btw, most of the posts i did was in a rush, and didnt have time to check for errors etc. by the time i read it after posting it was too late for me to edit.

so, thanks for bearing with me last week, everyone
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作者:anon 留言時間:2007-04-22 21:42:06
About 1998 MSNBC's Headline "American Beats Out Kwan"

看見有人揪住Michelle Kwan來攻擊博主,我好人做到底,就將自己知道的當時的情況說一說,誰讓本人對歷史感興趣呢?

MSNBC的1998年奧林匹克頭版標題赫然在目"American Beats Out Kwan".相繼地方報紙象Seattle Time Sports的頭版標題也都仿效,於是就有了迅速在美傳開的"American Beats Kwan."這難道不能說明問題嗎? 迫於華裔社會及輿論的壓力,MSNBC做了道歉.道歉的原文在此:
"MSNBC apologizes for an error that may have been interpreted to
state that U.S. figure skater Michelle Kwan was not American.
The error appeared briefly in a scrolling marquee during
coverage of the Winter Olympics and was corrected quickly.
However, the marquee was picked up by MSNBCs push technology,
News Alert. So to some, it might have appeared the error was on
the site for a longer period or was not corrected. MSNBC
apologizes for the bulletins wording.


Edmundo Macedo
Executive Sports Editor"
這裡說明了幾點:
1. 此報道內容"was on the site for a longer period or was not corrected"
2. 道歉的人沒有直接承認"Kwan is an American"
3. 道歉更沒有指明他們未來會如何避免再發生這樣的錯誤

道歉迫於壓力,既成的報道所說明的事實不能因為包括匿名"遊客"在內的某些人的視而不見而否認它的存在.

轉當時一位華裔寫給MSNBC的信(注:此信僅在此轉載藉以說明一些事實,不作其他任何用途.任何人不得由此再轉載.謝謝!)

"gentlemen:
I am writing to register my deep disappointment and shock at your
recent headline, "American beats Kwan." What do the writers think Michelle Kwan is?! She is an AMERICAN citizen, not a foreigner. I recognize your apology but feel compelled to respond to such a display of ignorance.

I was born and raised in the United States. I have never lived anywhere but the United States. I do not speak a second language. I happen to be an AMERICAN of Asian ancestry. I am an elected member of the Seattle City Council and can only be grateful that msn was not operating when I was elected, for I fear your headline might have been something along the lines of, " American citizen defeated by Choe." Americans represent several different ethnicities and races and should be recognized by the media as such.

Your headline was a reminder to me that there is much work that
continues to be done across this country on the subject on racial
literacy, even in this state where we elected a governor - an AMERICAN
governor of Chinese ancestry - by the largest margin ever. I was
shocked and saddened to see such an unenlightened state of journalism
in my own back yard.


Signed,

xxx xxx(Anon's note: 姓名隱去)

An AMERICAN
Seattle City Council member"
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作者:KryingLove 留言時間:2007-04-22 21:21:00
To Sky:

謝謝 "哭泣的愛”這個譯名,很喜歡。你學心理學的吧,對心理的把握很準確。Resillence確實是個重要的心裡素質,得多下點功夫。一個人一生真不容易,要學多少東東啊。

對於日常生活中的小偏見,我想最好的辦法是nicely and humerously kick back, 而不是take in. 學會以玩笑的方式給人提意見,是個大學問,一直沒有把握。

To Carfieldcat:

謝謝回貼及提供的有益信息。讀了你附的文摘,大長見識。原來不知還有honory white這樣的分類,這完全是對其他種族的羞辱。

面對高度發達的西方(white)文明,我們都問過自己為甚麽比人家差。以前我以為是東西方的文化或思維方式不同所致,現在我更傾向於attension(注意力,目標)不同所致。 有一本書“關於人文事物的科學”其中論述attension實際上是一種資源,只能用於有限的方向。失之毫釐就會差之千里。以後有時間切搓。你要是能起個頭,我們也好跟貼。

謝謝討論,這個周末很有意義。謝謝!
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作者:chex 留言時間:2007-04-22 20:33:26
說美國不好並不意味這立刻要作出行動要回國才說不好,因為很多人只是描述自己的感受,至於去留自己心裡都有一本帳,最終目的可能就在心裡已經決定了,只是時間問題,呵呵,幹嗎象有些人那樣干點事還得給自己找輒.
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作者:frost 留言時間:2007-04-22 19:25:49
樓上的,到底有多少美國電台、報紙、電視批評那篇報道呢?給個數字吧。
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作者:遊客 留言時間:2007-04-22 19:01:44
"當年關穎珊在鹽湖城冬奧會上輸給了Susan,整個美國一片興高采烈,報紙的標題是“Michell was Defeated by American!”" -- 別在這胡說八道了!你知道事後有多少美國人批評那報道嗎?你知道事後美國有多少電台,電視評論家批評那報道嗎?什麼“整個美國一片興高采烈”,簡直是一派胡言!不懂你為什麼要在這煽動種族主義呢?!
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作者:carfieldcat 留言時間:2007-04-22 18:29:31
To KryingLove,

我非常享受和你的討論,而且也認真反思了我的一些觀點,我期待着在未來做一些微調。在此時此刻,我想我更樂於放下目前的分歧。我們中國人有句話叫做求同存異,我想,我們的出發點都是一樣的,只不過我們看待一個問題大視角不同。

我很高興你能告訴我你的學科背景,我感覺在兩種文化中(使用C.P.Snow的區分:科學文化和人文文化)需要更多的交流。至少我從這個對話中了解了你的立場、視角和觀點。這也使我想起了國內教育的一個缺失,那就是在本科階段的General Education的深度和廣度不夠,也就是說學生專業化的階段過早提前了,一個很嚴重的後果是文科學生缺乏科學態度和方法訓練,而理科學生缺乏人文視野和社會關懷。這當然依然是逃不脫一些歷史規律:幾乎所有的發展中國家在經濟增長階段走的都是技術官僚主義(Technocracy)的道路。

我欽佩你資助貧困學生的善舉,我的建議是你可以在你的家鄉做這些事情(如果那裡也是經濟欠發達地區的話),這樣以來你能對結果有直接的觀察和監督,避免資金被無恥的腐敗官員挪用。我對美國的公共圖書館系統欽佩之至,他日若能有機會影響決策,我當把在國內尤其是農村地區建議免費公共圖書館作為最緊迫的議事日程。所以,如果你有資金,你可以考慮這個提議,哪怕在村子裡建個小的圖書室,訂上十幾份科學普及雜誌或者畫報也好。我猜想你可能是個faculty,對於我這樣的窮學生,我能做的只是儘量通過www.ocef.com上的Amazon連接進去買書,這樣,Amazon能夠把購物款的4%-8%交給OCEF資助中國貧困地區的學生,而你本人沒有任何額外的付出。Fatwallet.com的fat cash也可以捐給OCEF。我也建議所有的網友通過這種方式進行幫助。

我也很高興你能入選百人計劃,不管國內的學術風氣如何浮躁,希望你能儘量做點實事吧。對於我個人,我想在我本專業里能多做點Social Justice方面的研究和社會工作,最希望的是能培養這方面的social workers,我期待有更多的人關注我們國內面臨的社會問題,更好地監督執法部門的執法過程。我想,我們看問題的視角不一樣,但我們努力的方向應該是一樣的。

我真的很感謝和你的對話,因為我覺得在這個對話的過程中我學習的是對於異見的寬容,學習的是如何理性地建設性的討論一個問題,這個經歷是無價的,儘管我急躁冒進的毛病未來肯定還會犯,但我會想起這次的討論。

最後,我希望你,以及任何其他感興趣於這個話題的人,如果有時間的話,能夠讀完下面這篇文章,或許會有各自的認識吧。

Title: Colorblind to the Reality of Race in America., By: Haney López, Ian F., Chronicle of Higher Education, 00095982, 11/3/2006, Vol. 53, Issue 11
Database: Academic Search Premier

Colorblind to the Reality of Race in America
Section: The Chronicle Review
How will race as a social practice evolve in the United States over the next few decades? The American public, and indeed many scholars, increasingly believe that the country is leaving race and racism behind. Some credit Brown v. Board of Education, the revered 1954 U.S. Supreme Court decision pronouncing segregated schools unequal, and the broad civil-rights movement of which the decision was a part, with turning the nation away from segregation and toward equality. Others point to changing demographics, emphasizing the rising number of mixed-race marriages and the increasing Asian and Hispanic populations that are blurring the historic black-white divide.

My sense of our racial future differs. Not only do I fear that race will continue to fundamentally skew American society over the coming decades, but I worry that the belief in the diminished salience of race makes that more likely rather than less. I suspect that the laws supposedly protecting against racial discrimination are partly to blame, for they no longer contribute to racial justice but instead legitimate continued inequality. We find ourselves now in the midst of a racial era marked by what I term "colorblind white dominance," in which a public consensus committed to formal antiracism deters effective remediation of racial inequality, protecting the racial status quo while insulating new forms of racism and xenophobia.

The Jefferson County school district, in Kentucky, covers Louisville and surrounding suburbs. A target of decades of litigation to eradicate Jim Crow school segregation and its vestiges, the district has since 2001 voluntarily pursued efforts to maintain what is now one of the most integrated school systems in the country. But not everyone supports those efforts, especially when they involve taking race into consideration in pupil assignments. In 2004 a white lawyer named Teddy B. Gordon ran for a seat on the Jefferson County School Board, promising to end endeavors to maintain integrated schools. He finished dead last, behind three other candidates. Indifferent to public repudiation, he is back -- this time in the courtroom. Gordon's argument is seductively simple: Brown forbids all governmental uses of race, even if designed to achieve or maintain an integrated society.

He has already lost at the trial level and before an appellate court, as have two other sets of plaintiffs challenging similar integration-preserving efforts by school districts in Seattle and in Lynn, Mass. But Gordon and the conservative think tanks and advocacy groups that back him, including the self-styled Center for Equal Opportunity, are not without hope. To begin with, over the past three decades the courts have come ever closer to fully embracing a colorblind Constitution -- colorblind in the sense of disfavoring all uses of race, irrespective of whether they are intended to perpetuate or ameliorate racial oppression. More immediately, last June the Supreme Court voted to review the Louisville and Seattle cases -- Meredith v. Jefferson County Board of Education and Parents Involved in Community Schools v. Seattle School District.

Roger Clegg, president and general counsel of the Center for Equal Opportunity, is thrilled. As he gleefully noted in The National Review, there's an old saw that the court does not hear cases it plans to affirm. The Bush administration, too, supports Gordon and his efforts. The U.S. solicitor general recently submitted a friend-of-the-court brief urging the justices to prevent school districts across the country from paying attention to race.

At issue is a legally backed ideology of colorblindness that could have implications beyond schools -- for higher education and the wider society. Yes, in a narrowly tailored decision three years ago, the Supreme Court allowed the University of Michigan to consider race as one factor in law-school admissions. But since then, conservative advocacy groups have used the threat of lawsuits to intimidate many institutions into halting race-based college financial-aid and orientation programs, as well as graduate stipends and fellowships, and those groups are now taking aim at faculty hiring procedures. This month Michigan voters will decide whether to amend the state constitution to ban racial and gender preferences wherever practiced. And looming on the horizon are renewed efforts to enact legislation forbidding the federal and state governments from collecting statistics that track racial disparities, efforts that are themselves part of a broader campaign to expunge race from the national vocabulary.

Gordon predicts that if he prevails, Louisville schools will rapidly resegregate. He is sanguine about the prospect. "We're a diverse society, a multiethnic society, a colorblind society," he told The New York Times. "Race is history."

But the past is never really past, especially not when one talks about race and the law in the United States. We remain a racially stratified country, though for some that constitutes an argument for rather than against colorblindness. Given the long and sorry history of racial subordination, there is tremendous rhetorical appeal to Justice John Marshall Harlan's famous dissent in Plessy v. Ferguson, the 1896 case upholding segregated railway cars: "Our Constitution is color-blind, and neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens."

Contemporary proponents of colorblindness almost invariably draw a straight line from that dissent to their own impassioned advocacy for being blind to race today. But in doing so, partisans excise Harlan's acknowledgment of white superiority in the very paragraph in which he extolled colorblindness: "The white race deems itself to be the dominant race in this country. And so it is, in prestige, in achievements, in education, in wealth and in power. So, I doubt not, it will continue to be for all time." That omission obscures a more significant elision: Harlan objected not to all governmental uses of race, but to those he thought would unduly oppress black people.

As viewed by Harlan and the court, the central question was where to place limits on government support for the separation of racial groups that were understood to be unequal by nature (hence Harlan's comfortable endorsement of white superiority). He and the majority agreed that the state could enforce racial separation in the "social" but not in the "civil" arenas; they differed on the contours of the spheres. Harlan believed that segregated train cars limited the capacity of black people to participate as full citizens in civic life, while the majority saw such segregation only as a regulation of social relations sanctioned by custom. The scope of the civil arena mattered so greatly precisely because state exclusions from public life threatened to once again reduce the recently emancipated to an inferior caste defined by law.

For the first half of the 20th century, colorblindness represented the radical and wholly unrealized aspiration of dismantling de jure racial subordination. Thus Thurgood Marshall, as counsel to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People in the late 1940s and early 1950s, cited Harlan's celebration of colorblindness to argue that racial distinctions are "contrary to our Constitution and laws." But neither society nor the courts embraced colorblindness when doing so might have sped the demise of white supremacy. Even during the civil-rights era, colorblindness as a strategy for racial emancipation did not take hold. Congress and the courts dismantled Jim Crow segregation and proscribed egregious forms of private discrimination in a piecemeal manner, banning only the most noxious misuses of race, not any reference to race whatsoever.

In the wake of the civil-rights movement's limited but significant triumphs, the relationship between colorblindness and racial reform changed markedly. The greatest potency of colorblindness came to lie in preserving, rather than challenging, the racial status quo. When the end of explicit race-based subordination did not eradicate stubborn racial inequalities, progressives increasingly recognized the need for state and private actors to intervene along racial lines. Rather than call for colorblindness, they began to insist on the need for affirmative race-conscious remedies. In that new context, colorblindness appealed to those opposing racial integration. Enshrouded with the moral raiment of the civil-rights movement, colorblindness provided cover for opposition to racial reform.

Within a year of Brown, Southern school districts and courts had recognized that they could forestall integration by insisting that the Constitution allowed them to use only "race neutral" means to end segregation -- school-choice plans that predictably produced virtually no integration whatsoever. In 1965 a federal court in South Carolina put it squarely: "The Constitution is color-blind; it should no more be violated to attempt integration than to preserve segregation."

Wielding the ideal of colorblindness as a sword, in the past three decades racial conservatives on the Supreme Court have increasingly refought the battles lost during the civil-rights era, cutting back on protections against racial discrimination as well as severely limiting race-conscious remedies. In several cases in the 1970s -- including North Carolina State Board of Education v. Swann, upholding school-assignment plans, and Regents of the University of California v. Bakke -- the court ruled that the need to redress the legacy of segregation made strict colorblindness impossible. But as the 1980s went on, in other cases -- McCleskey v. Kemp, which upheld Georgia's death penalty despite uncontroverted statistical evidence that African-Americans convicted of murder were 22 times as likely to be sentenced to death if their victims were white rather than black, and City of Richmond v. Croson, which rejected a city affirmative-action program steering some construction dollars to minority-owned companies despite the fact that otherwise only two-thirds of 1 percent of city contracts went to minority companies in a city 50 percent African-American -- the court presented race as a phenomenon called into existence just when someone employed a racial term. Discrimination existed only but every time someone used racial language. Thus the court found no harm in Georgia's penal system, because no evidence surfaced of a specific bad actor muttering racial epithets, while it espied racism in Richmond's affirmative-action program because it set aside contracts for "minorities."

That approach ignores the continuing power of race as a society-altering category. The civil-rights movement changed the racial zeitgeist of the nation by rendering illegitimate all explicit invocations of white supremacy, a shift that surely marked an important step toward a more egalitarian society. But it did not bring into actual existence that ideal, as white people remain dominant across virtually every social, political, and economic domain. In 2003 the poverty rate was 24 percent among African-Americans, 23 percent among Latinos, and 8 percent among white people. That same year, an estimated 20 percent of African-Americans and 33 percent of Latinos had no health insurance, while 11 percent of white people were uninsured. Discrepancies in incarceration rates are particularly staggering, with African-American men vastly more likely to spend time in prison than white men are.

Or forget the numbers and recall for a moment the graphic parade of images from Hurricane Katrina. Or consider access to country clubs and gated communities, in-group preferences for jobs and housing, the moral certainty shared by many white folks regarding their civic belonging and fundamental goodness. Or, to tie back to Louisville, reflect on what you already know about the vast, racially correlated disparities in resources available to public (and still more to private) schools across the country. Racial dominance by white people continues as a central element of our society.

What may be changing, however, is how membership in the white group is defined. The term "white" has a far more complicated -- and fluid -- history in the United States than people commonly recognize. For most of our history, whiteness stood in contrast to the nonwhite identities imposed upon Africans, American Indians, Mexican peoples of the Southwest, and Asian immigrants, marking one pole in the racial hierarchy. Simultaneously, however, putative "racial" divisions separated Europeans, so that in the United States presumptions of gross racial inferiority were removed from Germans only in the 1840s through 1860s, the Irish in the 1850s through 1880s, and Eastern and Southern Europeans in the 1900s to 1920s. The melding of various European groups into the monolithic, undifferentiated "white" category we recognize today is a recent innovation, only fully consolidated in the mid-20th century. Now white identity may be expanding to include persons and groups with ancestors far beyond Europe.

Perhaps we should distinguish here among three sorts of white identity. Consider first persons who are "fully white," in the sense that, with all of the racially relevant facts about them widely known, they would generally be considered white by the community at large. (Obviously, racial identity is a matter not of biology but of social understandings, although those may give great weight to purportedly salient differences in morphology and ancestry.) In contrast to that group, there have long been those "passing as white" -- people whose physical appearance allowed them to claim a white identity when social custom would have assigned them to a nonwhite group had their ancestry been widely known. Of people of Irish and Jewish descent in the United States, for example, one might say that while initially some were able to pass as white, now all are fully white.

Today a new group is emerging, perhaps best described as "honorary whites." Apartheid South Africa first formally crafted this identity: Seeking to engage in trade and commerce with nations cast as inferior by apartheid logic, particularly Japan, South Africa extended to individuals from such countries the status of honorary white people, allowing them to travel, reside, relax, and conduct business in South African venues that were otherwise strictly "whites only." Persons who pass as white hide racially relevant parts of their identity; honorary whites are extended the status of whiteness despite the public recognition that, from a bioracial perspective, they are not fully white.

In the United States, honorary-white status seems increasingly to exist for certain people and groups. The quintessential example is certain Asian-Americans, particularly East Asians. Although Asians have long been racialized as nonwhite as a matter of law and social practice, the model-minority myth and professional success have combined to free some Asian-Americans from the most pernicious negative beliefs regarding their racial character. In part this trend represents a shift toward a socially based, as opposed to biologically based, definition of race. Individuals and communities with the highest levels of acculturation, achievement, and wealth increasingly find themselves functioning as white, at least as measured by professional integration, residential patterns, and intermarriage rates.

Latinos also have access to honorary-white identity, although their situation differs from that of Asian-Americans. Unlike the latter, and also unlike African-Americans, Latinos in the United States have long been on the cusp between white and nonwhite. Despite pervasive and often violent racial prejudice against Mexicans in the Southwest and Puerto Ricans and other Hispanic groups elsewhere, the most elite Latin Americans in the United States have historically been accepted as fully white. With no clear identity under the continental theory of race (which at its most basic identifies blacks as from Africa, whites from Europe, reds from the Americas, and yellows from Asia), and with a tremendous range of somatic features marking this heterogeneous population, there has long been relatively more room for the use of social rather than strictly biological factors in the imputation of race to particular Hispanic individuals and groups.

It seems likely that an increasing number of Latinos -- those who have fair features, material wealth, and high social status, aided also by Anglo surnames -- will both claim and be accorded a position in U.S. society as fully white. Simultaneously, many more -- similarly situated in terms of material and status position, but perhaps with slightly darker features or a surname or accent suggesting Latin-American origins -- will become honorary whites. Meanwhile, the majority of Latinos will continue to be relegated to nonwhite categories.

The continuing evolution in who counts as white is neither particularly startling nor especially felicitous. Not only have racial categories and ideologies always mutated, but race has long turned on questions of wealth, professional attainment, and social position. A developing scholarship now impressively demonstrates that even during and immediately after slavery, at a time when racial identity in the United States was presumably most rigidly fixed in terms of biological difference and descent, and even in the hyperformal legal setting of the courtroom, determinations of racial identity often took place on the basis of social indicia like the nature of one's employment or one's choice of sexual partners.

Nor will categories like black, brown, white, yellow, and red soon disappear. Buttressed by the continued belief in continental racial divisions, physical features those divisions supposedly connote will remain foundational to racial classification. The stain of African ancestry -- so central to the elaboration of race in the United States -- ensures a persistent special stigma for black people. Honorary-white status will be available only to the most exceptional -- and the most light-skinned -- African-Americans, and on terms far more restrictive than those on which whiteness will be extended to many Latinos and Asian-Americans.

Those many in our society who are darker, poorer, more identifiably foreign will continue to suffer the poverty, marginalization, immiseration, incarceration, and exclusion historically accorded to those whose skin and other features socially mark them as nonwhite. Even under a redefined white category, racial hierarchy will continue as the links are strengthened between nonwhite identity and social disadvantage on the one hand, and whiteness and privilege on the other. Under antebellum racial logic, those black people with the fairest features were sometimes described as "light, bright, and damn near white." If today we switch out "damn near" for "honorary" and fold in a few other minorities, how much has really changed?

In the face of continued racial hierarchy, it is crucial that we understand the colorblind ideology at issue in the school cases before the Supreme Court. "In the eyes of government, we are just one race here," Justice Antonin Scalia intoned in 1995. "It is American." That sentiment is stirring as an aspiration, but disheartening as a description of reality, and even more so as a prescription for racial policies. All persons of good will aspire to a society free from racial hierarchy. We should embrace colorblindness -- in the sense of holding it up as an ideal. But however far the civil-rights struggle has moved us, we remain far from a racially egalitarian utopia.

In this context, the value of repudiating all governmental uses of race must depend on a demonstrated ability to remedy racial hierarchy. Colorblindness as a policy prescription merits neither fealty nor moral stature by virtue of the attractiveness of colorblindness as an ideal. In the hands of a Thurgood Marshall, who sought to end Jim Crow segregation and to foster an integrated society, colorblindness was a transformative, progressive practice. But when Teddy Gordon, Roger Clegg, the Bush administration, and the conservative justices on the Supreme Court call for banning governmental uses of race, they aim to end the efforts of local majorities to respond constructively to racial inequality. In so doing, they are making their version of colorblindness a reactionary doctrine.

Contemporary colorblindness is a set of understandings -- buttressed by law and the courts, and reinforcing racial patterns of white dominance -- that define how people comprehend, rationalize, and act on race. As applied, however much some people genuinely believe that the best way to get beyond racism is to get beyond race, colorblindness continues to retard racial progress. It does so for a simple reason: It focuses on the surface, on the bare fact of racial classification, rather than looking down into the nature of social practices. It gets racism and racial remediation exactly backward, and insulates new forms of race baiting.

White dominance continues with few open appeals to race. Consider the harms wrought by segregated schools today. Schools in predominantly white suburbs are far more likely to have adequate buildings, teachers, and books, while the schools serving mainly minority children are more commonly underfinanced, unsafe, and in a state of disrepair. Such harms acccumulate, encouraging white flight to avoid the expected deterioration in schools and the violence that is supposedly second nature to "them," only to precipitate the collapse in the tax base that in fact ensures a decline not only in schools but also in a range of social services. Such material differences in turn buttress seemingly common-sense ideas about disparate groups, so that we tend to see pristine schools and suburbs as a testament to white accomplishment and values. When violence does erupt, it is laid at the feet of alienated and troubled teenagers, not a dysfunctional culture. Yet we see the metal detectors guarding entrances to minority schoolhouses (harbingers of the prison bars to come) as evidence not of the social dynamics of exclusion and privilege, but of innate pathologies. No one need talk about the dynamics of privilege and exclusion. No one need cite white-supremacist arguments nor openly refer to race -- race exists in the concrete of our gated communities and barrios, in government policies and programs, in cultural norms and beliefs, and in the way Americans lead their lives.

Colorblindness badly errs when it excuses racially correlated inequality in our society as unproblematic so long as no one uses a racial epithet. It also egregiously fails when it tars every explicit reference to race. To break the interlocking patterns of racial hierarchy, there is no other way but to focus on, talk about, and put into effect constructive policies explicitly engaged with race. To be sure, inequality in wealth is a major and increasing challenge for our society, but class is not a substitute for a racial analysis -- though, likewise, racial oppression cannot be lessened without sustained attention to poverty. It's no accident that the poorest schools in the country warehouse minorities, while the richest serve whites; the national education crisis reflects deeply intertwined racial and class politics. One does not deny the imbrication of race and class by insisting on the importance of race-conscious remedies: The best strategies for social repair will give explicit attention to race as well as to other sources of inequality, and to their complex interrelationship.

The claim that race and racism exist only when specifically mentioned allows colorblindness to protect a new racial politics from criticism. The mobilization of public fears along racial lines has continued over the past several decades under the guise of interlinked panics about criminals, welfare cheats, terrorists, and -- most immediately in this political season -- illegal immigrants. Attacks ostensibly targeting "culture" or "behavior" rather than "race" now define the diatribes of today's racial reactionaries. Samuel P. Huntington's jeremiad against Latino immigration in his book Who Are We?: The Challenges to America's National Identity rejects older forms of white supremacy, but it promotes the idea of a superior Anglo-Protestant culture. Patrick J. Buchanan defends his latest screed attacking "illegal immigrants," State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America, against the charge of racism by insisting that he's indifferent to race but outraged by those with different cultures who violate our laws. My point is not simply that culture and behavior provide coded language for old prejudices, but that colorblindness excuses and insulates this recrudescence of xenophobia by insisting that only the explicit use of racial nomenclature counts as racism.

Contemporary colorblindness loudly proclaims its antiracist pretensions. To actually move toward a racially egalitarian society, however, requires that we forthrightly respond to racial inequality today. The alternative is the continuation of colorblind white dominance. As Justice Harry Blackmun enjoined in defending affirmative action in Bakke: "In order to get beyond racism, we must first take account of race. There is no other way."

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By Ian F. Haney López

Ian F. Haney López is a professor at the Boalt Hall School of Law at the University of California at Berkeley. New York University Press has just issued a 10th-anniversary edition of his White by Law: The Legal Construction of Race, with a new chapter on colorblind white dominance.
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作者:sky 留言時間:2007-04-22 14:18:30
I love it! Love it! Love it! I love this civilized in-depth discussions!
Hope it keeps on this way.

回D版加菲貓:
牛人?不好意思。算是“半邊酷”哈,博客沒有 手機還是有滴,很原始的那種。車胎爆了可以求救。
煮酒談史論今這個念頭是滿誘人的(儘管對冰淇淋比對酒是更感興趣,呵呵),可惜目前正和網癮作鬥爭,雖一時半會兒戒不了網,暫時還是打游擊,不建立根據地吧。不然,那欠下的公事私事單子越拖越長,不好交差。絳紫吧,D版
繼續開拓新大陸,sky會繼續常來打擾。

對網友anon作出的對一些針對版主觀點的批評意見之非常中肯的三條分析,又要大呼一聲:佩服!

看得出網友“哭泣的愛”,是勤於思考的。你的故事講到了兒童成長過程中的一個重要因素--韌性,resilience, 或者稱抗挫力。同樣的困境,會使一個孩子倒下,而使另外一個堅持下來,最終取得成功。這就是抗挫力的不同。韌性是同什麼因素相關呢?有遺傳 (nature) 和環境 (nurture) 的因素。更重要的是環境因素,也就是父母的愛,同伴的友誼,學校的關切,社區的支持,等等等等。

這裡提到的社區的支持,是與racism, discrimination, and prejudice 是格格不入的。種族主義以及歧視偏見是公平社會的毒素。容忍它們的存在,是容忍人類自絕。如果一個人因為自己從未感受到不公平的對待,因而認為沒有必要反對歧視,這個人不是過於自私就是對同伴的不公平遭遇麻木不仁。

如果一個人因為自己的韌性強,遇到不公平對待,可以以“天將降大任於斯人也必先....”那樣韓信一番,退一步海闊天空,好,我服了你。可這只是個案。其他人也許沒有這般海量,他們仍然要求討回公道,我得說,他們是有權去討的。沒有公平就沒有正義,對於遭受不平的少數族裔之鳴不平,社會各界應給予支持。否則,讓不義的行為繼續下去,社會沒有改進的時候。

對社會公道失去信心,才會忍受屈辱,and that, will cost your psychological well-being.
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作者:KryingLove 留言時間:2007-04-22 12:30:30
To Carfieldcat and Anon:

Thank you very much for the responses and comments. I am amazed by the volume of books you guys have read on the topic and how much you remember all the details. Since I move to the US, I have not had enough time and language skill to read beyond my area of study. This is a huge lose for me since I have quite broad interest and taste beyond my science discpline. If you happen to be in an area of science or engineering, I'd like to be your humble friend. Keeping discussion with you and the group here will help to keep my nurons alive. If you happen to be in an area of social science, please consider my posts as a grass-root voice. You may need this kind of base touch to build your theory because the ultimate purpose and end user/practioner of a social science is people, each individual person.

The Virginia Tech mass killing struck me hard. First of all, we Chinese have a reason to feel insecure as Passer-by had put it. Secondly, it triggered me to think how to prevent or avoid this kind of thing to happen in our life. My experence tells me that psycological health is the key. Social econmical, racial, and even sexual reasons are parts of the equation. But, the direct road leading to a tragedy is usually the perception of humilliation, hopelessness, and despair. To this end, I think that both society/environment and the individual are to blame. We need to build a society that is fair, hopeful, and people in it are more caring for others. On the other hand, we need to build stronger nerves in our children so they are more tolerant and forgiving as well as caring others. I think feeling secure and being loved in a good way for a child to grow healthy psycologically. This is the reason that I do not want to get racial issue into their lives. I talked with my kids after we heared the VT tragedy. I also called my nephews and niece who are in college in China. I said to them that this is an isolated case, no racial issue involved. Especially to my nephews and niece, I had took the opportunity to lecture them on how to cope with prejudices they face everyday. As much as I am trying to support them, they are still very poor village kids on today's Chinese colleges campuses.

As for whether go back to China or stay in the US, my attitude is to help your people (your family, your relatives, your village, or your country) as much as you can beside living your own happy life. At this stage, China does not need any of us to sacrify our living standard to serve the country. My way of servicing is to support my father, support my siblings' kids to go to college, and being a visiting scholar (在納入百人計劃) in the Chinese Academy of Sciences. I am planning to set up a scholarship in my village school. I am trying to find a way so my contribution can be tax deductable. If anyone here knows a way please let me know.

It is great exchanging ideas with you. Wish you a relaxing and pleasent weekend.
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作者:sohu 留言時間:2007-04-22 10:11:43
一個有趣的現象是:駐韓美軍士兵強姦當地居民的事時有發生,韓國沒有如此全國性
的行動,在美國就更不被關注。
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作者:anon 留言時間:2007-04-22 09:57:00
D版的回帖寫得非常好.可以看出博主是希望通過文字建立起健康的辯論,所以認同或者不認同博主觀點的人,最好不要進行人身攻擊,大家就事論事,談的應該是問題本身.

差不多從這個博客一開張,我就跟着看博主的每一篇文章.在我為博主的觀點叫好時,也看到不少的跟貼在對博主進行人身攻擊,甚至漫罵.這裡進行人身攻擊的人大都有先入為主的假設:
1. 凡批評美國的人肯定無視存在於中國社會的同樣的醜陋問題;
2. 凡分析美國社會弊病的人就應該滾回中國;
3. 凡揭示移民社會群體意識缺陷的人在世界觀甚至精神上都不健康

個人認為象博主這樣有獨立思考意識的人已經不多了,原因正如博主回貼中引用的薩義德的話:大部分人的個體思維已內化了主流意識.所以我支持博主引領大家進行嚴肅的討論.
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作者:黑山老貓 留言時間:2007-04-22 09:13:33
haoxue:

請問什麼是正確的世界觀. 您對黨治下的中國有如此多的不滿意但卻拿着黨的基本觀點來要求別人.很矛盾啊.偶從小學起就被要求樹立正確的世界觀. 沒有這玩意, 偶的少先隊都不讓入. 偶認為除了極端主義, 大家的世界觀都是平等的. 所以不能隨便說某人的世界觀(或者價值觀)有什麼問題. 你非要實施一個什麼網絡世界觀准入制度, 那別上網來了, 回家找份美國版或中國版人民日報看算了.

至於北京人上海人XX人歧視問題, 話題太老了. 偶認為解放後出現的北京人上海人XX人歧視問題是共產黨把古代沿用數千年的致仕還鄉制度給廢除的原因. 再說現在你在北京找一個所謂pure"北京人"真很不容易,不信您試試. 所以試圖挑起國內的地區歧視族群歧視話題很無聊.

最後是英語,有時候看一些用詞既不考究又語法錯誤滿篇的英語東東真的不爽. 我不相信輸入中文就那麼費勁? 母語就真的比外語難張嘴? 呵呵. 您說呢?
當然有些人非要說自己英文比中文好. 那也行. 在internet上咱也不能攔着你不是?
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作者:carfieldcat 留言時間:2007-04-22 09:11:48
To Huaxue,

(1)我可以不可以批評美國?如果因為我是一個中國人就不能批評美國的話,那我沒有什麼好說的。如果我有權批評美國的話,那麼是不是在每次我批評美國前都應該把所有中國的問題全先檢討一遍?我好象沒有說過中國沒有歧視嗎?我不但同意你在這個問題上的認識,事實上我覺得中國目前最需要的一部法律就是《反歧視法》,不但應有反歧視法,執法部門還應該有due process,但是問題是在我們制定這樣一部法律的時候,我們必須得借鑑美國——這個你們心目中最自由最平等的國家的經驗,我沒有看出有任何必要不能研究美國的社會問題。

(2)我不明白我回不回國和我討論問題有什麼相干。歡迎你繼續猜測我是否回國,但是這不是一個很好的對我進行個人攻擊的理由。我歡迎象Kryinglove這樣的批評,他/她是嚴肅的,我的回覆也是認真的。我不歡迎別人用英語發言,是我個人的偏好。我在美國過得好不好,似乎不是你用來揣測我探討美國社會問題動機的理由。只想告訴你,我過得還不錯,就不勞你關心了。

謝謝你誇獎我有才。這話我愛聽。
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作者:carfieldcat 留言時間:2007-04-22 08:55:10
To Kryinglove,

非常感謝你的詳細評論,而且我尊重你的意見,甚至同意你的許多觀點。另外,你的英語非常好。

說點題外話。關於讀不讀書的問題,我倒想起了薩義德的一件事,我估計很多人都知道他不但是美國東方學的創始人在學術界享有盛名,而且他也是巴解組織的執委。有一次他演講的時候一個巴勒斯坦人站起來批評他關於巴以衝突的觀點是創造新的種族仇恨而不是用愛去征服世界,而且拒絕薩義德建議的有關中東問題起源的讀物。我記不清薩義德的原話,好象是這樣的:“這正是你錯誤的根源,因為你已經內化了所有的主流意識形態,而且你拒絕發現新的事實去修訂你的觀點。”

我讚賞你在逆境中崛起的勇氣而且欽佩你取得的成就。個人來說,我個人的經歷儘管和你有相似之處但似乎一直很順利,即使在美國,簡言之,從我的履歷看來,在我個人生活的任何一個方面,我都不可能對種族問題非常敏感,我更不應該是一個反美的左憤。我更應該由衷地讚美這個國家。

然而我不願意從我個人的經歷和角度出發看待所有的問題。我想這是我們之間最大的區別,我也不認為僅有“愛”能夠足夠去克服所有的問題。我在牛虻那篇博客里已經談過這個問題了,區別在於你認為這個世界(不僅是美國,也包括中國在內的所有國家)是否公正,如果不公正的話,你是僅僅願意成為一個“成功的人”呢?還是要挺身而出為了人類一個更美好的明天去使改變發生,即使這意味着犧牲你自己?

中國最早赴美的100名幼童之中,有一個最終抗拒清廷召回的命令拒絕回國。他完成了在耶魯的學習以後娶了一個美國姑娘為妻,以後他拒絕他的兒子學習中文,力圖讓他的兒子徹底忘記所有關於中國的一切,只是為了讓他的兒子不必經歷所有他經歷的一切。他很象你,你們相信,只要足夠努力頑強,你們是能夠克服所有種族以及其他障礙的。我也相信這一點,但是你有沒有想過在你們單個成功的故事背後還有更大的一個黑暗的背景?

儘管我不會留在美國,但是我確實關注在美的中國人的前途。Usagi提到了affirmative action中亞裔不被認可為少數族裔的事實,這恰恰是在美華人即將面臨的尷尬處境。您有孩子,您的孩子在申請大學的時候必須比其他少數族裔的孩子要多1000多分。請搜索華裔學生起訴普林斯頓的案子。在加州,由於華裔學生學術成績領先於白人學生,白人家長已經將中國父母集體告上了法庭,起訴他們對子女的教育太嚴苛。

這一切的根源在於在美華人,包括你的一個認識上的誤區,就是努力棄除弱勢族裔的心態,所以在LA反移民法遊行時你們不出頭,因為你們認為自己總體受教育水平高,能夠合法地在美國居留在美國,你們甚至認為如果非法移民被大赦了,你們多年求學辛苦熬綠卡的努力被打了折扣。Annon開的書單裡有一本Mississippi Chinese,我倒覺得頗值得一讀,第一批中國到Mississippi delta的中國人是靠黑人的幫助得以在棉花地里存活下來的,等到他們經濟狀況得到改善,他們的訴求是盡力融入白人社區,子女進白人的學校,而他們仍然要掙黑人社區的錢。

我們都知道黑人不喜歡華人,華人也討厭黑人,但是如果你讀了Mississippi Chinese等書以後,你也許會了解那種被拋棄和背叛的感覺。今天的移民法改革華人的觀望也可能造就日後華人與西裔的隔閡。白人傷害了任何有色人種,包括黑人,最終這種傷害是可以彌補的,白人能夠得到寬恕,而有色人種之間的傷害,是永遠無法彌補的。所以,不要試圖認為自己保持color blind相信自我奮鬥就能夠解決問題的。

歧視和種族主義是有根本區別的,我已經在Imus和Duke那篇文章里說過了。區別在於這個社會是否系統化了某一種歧視。我也反對動不動就拿種族主義說事,但是對於明顯的歧視案例,你可以假裝看不見它,但是有良知的人將承認它,有勇氣的人將為改變它而戰鬥。
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作者:huaxue 留言時間:2007-04-22 08:11:32
CARFIELDCAT很有才, 但我覺得他的世界觀有問題.中國的歧視就不嚴重?北京,上海人覺得全中國其他地方全是農村. 中國經濟的發展很大程度上是靠剝削廉價勞力獲得的,90%的農村人口未享受公民待遇,整個人文精神的淪喪, 功利主義,奴隸哲學盛行,誠實成了無用的代名詞.教育,醫療(不說大部分人口根本看不起病,享受不到起碼的醫療,太多急診病人沒錢而被被據之門外),住房,貪污,污染,民主...太多問題,還有對廣大弱勢力階層的欺壓.整個國家人文教育的極度匱乏.
我不認為人口可以作為藉口, 日本的人口密度比中國還高. 西方包括美國是有各種歧視. 但不可否認他的整體文明程度(對人權的重視,整體的人文關懷和公平程度,國際主義的程度..)是遠超中國的.哈佛是17世紀建的吧, 那時的美國人可是在蠻荒之地為生存而奮鬥,但仍然知道教育的重要.
人性本就有善和惡兩面,就看整個社會能營造一個什麼樣的氛圍,形成一個什麼樣的主體的道德標準和價值取向.博主不歡迎別人用英語留言, 未免太小家子氣了,所謂海納百川,有容乃大. 其實很多人在美國還是過得很愉快(比在中國受的待遇要公平).
我當然希望中國能強大, 但以一種怨婦的心態(不管在中國還是美國)是不可能實現的.中國現在需要對現實的批判,需要公民意識和道德意識的覺醒. 否則會有很大問題.美國當然也有問題,但應用正常的心態去對待和爭取.應該說美國作為一個移民國家還是比較寬容的. 我實在不理解為什麼有的人描寫的在美國過得如何悽慘,為什麼不回國去.
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作者:KryingLove 留言時間:2007-04-22 07:12:10
To Anon and Carfieldcat:

My previous post got into a incorrect format. Sorry I am writing in English again. This is not in any sense to show my excellent English. Typing Chinese is simply too difficulty for me at the moment. I am speaking a local Chinese dialect. My Pinyin is some what different from the standard tonge, which makes my typing too time-consuming. English is just a lazy way out for me. Please don't feel offended.

I don't disagree with eithe of you when you discuss racial discrimination in the perspective of politics or in scholarly context. I may even support you or vote for you if your run for a governmental position. I've never heared any of the books that Anon listed. I am not planning to read them in my life time either. This is not my area of study and I don't have enough interest or time or English to understand them. I am talking more in the perspective of an individual, especially a father, on how to cope with every day life in the US. To this end I find that Passer-dy's comments are more helpful (Thanks Passer-by for sharing your thoughts).

I grown up in an underprivilaged background. I have exprienced people's prejudice since I was three years old (before that, I don't know wether there were there or not). Family members do not like the one who is not lovely, which is me. Rich kids look down on poor kids (me), Kids from a bigger village pickes on those from a smaller one (me), Student from cities feels supior to the students from countryside, who is me again. Shanghainese scorns the people from other part of China, which is me again. Young people who have lighter skin color and better looking do not like a person who is dark colored and looks not as good. This unfortunately happens to be me again. Oh, man, if I was as sensitive or unforgiving as any one of those who looked down on me, I probably could not have lived to this day, at least not as healthy. Some of them probably could not have lived, at least not as happily, to this day either. Thanks Heaven, I've lived through and some of those people, including my classmates from Shanghai, becomes my best friends. All these experience tells me that prejudice is as deep as the style and color of a coat. I care less for a person who judges another fellow by looking at style of the coat that the person wears.

Then, who has given me the confidence to travel to many parts of the world around the globe with only limited English and heavy local Chinese accent? What is the root of strength that enabled me to go into a college lecture hall, an academic symposiums, a business board room, or a court room with a pursuasive voice. I think it is the understanding and belief of general goodness of human being. At the end of a day, what matters is the content. People, especially well-educated and good natured ones, will very quickly get into the content of a person regardless the color of his suit. In the fourteen years since I came to the US, I have never felt being discriminated, not at least openly. No one has ever said to me "Your English sucks" or "Go back to China". Even if somebody said that to me, I probably would not care much, because that person would quickly regret he did it.

As for the Virginia Tech mass killing, a comparable case is the case of 馬家爵 in China. I think that racial or economical factors play far less a role than psycology and love. Your history books and scholarly arguments do not offer much help in this regard. On the contrary, your argument rationalizes the behavior of Cho by blaming the society, which I find to be dangerous. This is the reason that I triggered me to respond to your blog.

Comparing with people from Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Southeast Asia coutries, or even from the minority groups within China, a great advantage of us Chinese Han people is that we don't have minority or island mentality. Do you want to push this into the mind of your children? No, I wouldn't. I do not want my children to be sensitive and narrow-minded. This kind of personality/mentality is a pain to a team, to a family, and to the person him or herself. This is the reason I continue to make my point here. Keeping a broard mind helps. A racial sensitive and combative person may win every battle along his way, but he loses the big war at the end. It is hard to imagine that Hitler, Stalin, or 孫中山 could achieve the height that they had achieved if they had been too quick to consider themselves a minority, which each of them actually was one.

I appreciate the contribution from the black people in civil right movement and of Chinese American forerunners in San Fransisco in their fight for racial justice. Thanks to their couragous fight we are enjoying a far fair society than it used to be. I can see myself fighting for justice too. But, I will never put hate or devisive mentality into it. It is far too dangerous that way.
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作者:KryingLove 留言時間:2007-04-22 00:44:49
T o A n o n a n d C a r f i e l d c a t :

S o r r y I a m w r i t i n g i n E n g l i s h a g a i n . T h i s i s n o t i n a n y s e n s e t o s h o w m y e x c e l l e n t E n g l i s h . T y p i n g C h i n e s e i s s i m p l y t o o d i f f i c u l t f o r m e . I a m s p e a k i n g a l o c a l C h i n e s e d i a l e c t . M y P i n y Y i n i s s o m e what d i f f e r e n t f r o m s t a n d a r d t o n g e , so it t a k e s m e m i n u t e s t o f i n d a s i n g l e c o r r e c t C h i n e s e c h a r a c t e r t o u s e . E n g l i s h i s j u s t a l a z y w a y o u t f o r m e . P l e a s e d o n ' t f e e l o f f e n d e d .

I d o n ' t d i s a g r e e w i t h b o t h o f y o u w h e n y o u d i s c u s s r a c i a l d i s c r i m i n a t i o n i n t h e p e r s p e c t i v e o f p o l i t i c s o r i n s c h o l a r l y c o n t e x t . I m a y e v e n s u p p o r t y o u o r v o t e f o r y o u i f y o u r u n f o r a g o v e r n m e n t a l p o s i t i o n . I ' v e n e v e r h e a r e d a n y o f t h e b o o k s t h a t A n o n l i s t e d . I a m n o t p l a n n i n g t o r e a d t h e m i n m y l i f e t i m e e i t h e r . T h i s i s n o t m y a r e a o f s t u d y a n d I d o n ' t h a v e e n o u g h i n t e r e s t o r t i m e o r E n g l i s h t o u n d e r s t a n d t h e m . I a m t a l k i n g m o r e i n t h e p e r s p e c t i v e o f a n i n d i v i d u a l , e s p e c a i l l y a f a t h e r , o n h o w t o c o p e w i t h e v e r y d a y l i f e i n t h e U S . T o t h i s e n d I f i n d t h a t P a s s e r - d y ' s c o m m e n t s a r e m o r e h e l p f u l ( T h a n k s P a s s e r - b y f o r s h a r i n g y o u r e x p e r i e n c e a n d t h o u g h t s ) .

I g r o w n u p i n a n u n d e r p r i v i l a g e d b a c k g r o u n d . I h a v e e x p r i e n c e d p e o p l e ' s p r e j u d i c e s i n c e I w a s t h r e e y e a r s o l d ( b e f o r e t h a t , I d o n ' t k n o w if there was any or not) . F a m i l y m e m b e r s d o n o t l i k e t h e o n e w h o i s n o t l o v e l y , w h i c h i s m e . R i c h k i d s l o o k d o w n o n p o o r k i d s ( m e ) , K i d s f r o m a b i g g e r v i l l a g e d i s c r i m i n a t e t h o s e f r o m a s m a l l e r o n e ( m e ) , S t u d e n t f r o m c i t i e s f e e l s t h t t h e v i l l a g e s t u d e n t s a r e s t u p i d , w h o i s m e a g a i n . S h a n g h a i n e s e s c o r n s t h e p e o p l e f r o m o t h e r p a r t o f C h i n a , w h i c h i s m e a g a i n . Y o u n g p e o p l e w h o h a v e a l i g h t e r s k i n a n d b e t t e r l o o k i n g d o n o t l i k e a p e r s o n w h o i s d a r k a n d l o o k n o t a s g o o d . T h e l a t t e r h a p p e n s t o b e m e a g a i n . O h , m a n , i f I w a s a s s e n s t i v e o r u n f o r g i v i n g a s a n y o n e o f t h o s e w h o l o o k e d d o w n o n m e , I p r o b a b l y c o u l d n o t h a v e l i v e d t o t h i s d a y , a t l e a s t n o t a s h e a l t h y . S o m e o f t h e m p r o b a b l y c o u l d n o t h a v e l i v e d , a t l e a s t n o t a s h a p p i l y , t o t h i s d a y e i t h e r . T h a n k s H e a v e n , I ' v e l i v e d t h r o u g h a n d s o m e o f t h o s e p e o p l e , i n c l u d i n g m y c l a s s m a t e s f r o m S h a n g h a i , b e c o m e s m y b e s t f r i e n d s . A l l t h e s e e x p e r i e n c e t e l l s m e t h a t p r e j u d i c e i s a s d e e p a s t h e s t y l e a n d c o l o r o f a c o a t . I c a r e l e s s f o r a p e r s o n w h o j u d g e s a n o t h e r f e l l o w b y l o o k i n g a t s t y l e o f t h e c o a t t h a t t h e p e r s o n w e a r s .

T h e n , w h o h a s g i v e n m e t h e c o n f i d e n c e s o t h a t I c a n t r a v e l a r o u n d t h e w o r l d w i t h l i m i t e d E n g l i s h a n d h e a v y l o c a l C h i n e s e a c c e n t ? W h a t i s t h e r o o t o f s t r e n g t h t h a t e n a b l e s m e t o g o i n t o a u n i v e r s i t y l e c t u r e h a l l , a n a c a d e m i c s y m p o s i u m s , a b u s i n e s s b o a r d r o o m , o r a c o u r t r o o m w i t h a p u r s u a s i v e v o i c e . I t h i n k i t i s t h e u n d e r s t a n d i n g o f g e n e r a l g o o d n e s s o f h u m a n b e i n g . A t t h e e n d o f a d a y , w h a t m a t t e r s i s t h e c o n t e n t . P e o p l e , e s p e c i a l l y w e l l - e d u c a t e d a n d g o o d n a t u r e d p e o p l e , w i l l v e r y q u i c k l y g e t i n t o t h e c o n t e n t o f a p e r s o n d e s p i t e t h e c o l o r t o f h i s c l o t h o r s k i n . I n t h e f o u r t e e n y e a r s s i n c e I c a m e t o t h e U S , I h a v e n e v e r f e l t b e i n g d i s c r i m i n a t e d , n o t a t l e a s t o p e n l y . N o o n e h a s e v e r s a i d t o m e " Y o u r E n g l i s h s u c k s " o r " G o b a c k t o C h i n a " . E v e n i f s o m e b o d y s a i d t h a t o t m e , I p r o b a b l y w o u l d n o t c a r e m u c h , b e c a u s e t h a t p e r s o n w o u l d q u i c k l y r e g r e t h e s a i d i t .

A s f o r t h e V i r g i n i a T e c h m a s s k i l l i n g , a c o m p a r a b l e c a s e i s t h e c a s e o f 馬家爵 i n C h i n a , I t h i n k r a c i a l o r s o c i e l e c o n o m i c a l f a c t o r s p l a y f a r l e s s a r o l e t h a n p s y c o l o g y a n d l o v e . Y o u r h i s t o r y b o o k s a n d s c h o l a r l y a r g u m e n t s d o n o t o f f e r m u c h h e l p i n t h i s r e g a r d . O n t h e c o n t r a r y , y o u r a r g u m e n t r a t i o n a l i z e s t h e b e h a v i o r o f C h o , w h i c h I f i n d t o b e d a n g e r o u s i f y o u r t h o u g h t g e t h o l d o f s e n s i t i v e a n d n a r r o w - m i n d e d p e r s o n s o r y o u n g k i d s . T h i s i s t h e r e a s o n I s t a r t e d r e s p o n d t o y o u r b l o g .

C o m p a r i n g w i t h p e o p l e f r o m T a i w a n , J a p a n , K o r e a , S o u t h e a s t A s i a c o u t r i e s , o r e v e n t h e m i n o r i t y g r o u p s w i t h i n C h i n a , a g r e a t a d v a n t a g e o f u s C h i n e s e H a n p e o p l e i s t h a t w e d o n ' t h a v e m i n o r i t y o r i s l a n d m e n t a l i t y . D o y o u w a n t t o p u s h t h i s i n t o y o u r c h i l d r e n ? I w o u l d n ' t . I d o n o t w a n t m y c h i l d r e n t o b e s e n s i t i v e a n d n a r r o w - m i n d e d . T h i s k i n d o f p e r s o n a l i t y / m e n t a l i t y i s a p a i n t o a t e a m , t o a f a m i l y , a n d t o t h e p e r s o n h i m o r h e r s e l f . T h i s i s t h e r e a s o n I c o n t i n u e t o m a k e m y p o i n t h e r e . K e e p i n g a b r o a r d m i n d h e l p s . A r a c i a l s e n s i t i v e a n d c o m b a t i v e p e r s o n m a y w i n e v e r y b a t t l e a l o n g h i s w a y , b u t h e l o s e s t h e b i g w a r a t t h e e n d . I t i s h a r d t o i m a g e t h a t H i t l e r , S t a l i n , o r 孫中山 c o u l d a c h i e v e t h e h e i g h t that had achieved i n s o c i e t y i f t h e y h a d been too quick to c o n s i d e r t h e m s e l v e s a m i n o r i t y , w h i c h e a c h o f t h e m a c t u a l l y w a s one.

I appreciate the contribution from the black people in civil right movement and of Chinese American forerunners in San Fransisco in their fight for racial justice. I can see myself fighting for justice too. But, I will never put hate into it. It is far to dangerous that way.
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作者:tea 留言時間:2007-04-21 23:18:22
自從VT校園血案發生後,在網上已經讀了好多評論文,包括那些總是在第一時間跳出來譴責中國人的教育和素質,把中國文化砭得一無是處的帖子。還有些人蹦出來比較中美之間不同態度(案發在美國,也不知為什麼這些人認為和美態度不一樣就是中國的罪證了?)。
直到讀了此文,才覺得心有戚戚焉。
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作者:老貓 留言時間:2007-04-21 18:55:40
回carfieldcat,小米粥東西的確多. 貌似從2005開始的. 我今天灌了好幾碗了. 得慢慢看.

另:現在雖然blog滿天飛,但特別好的其實很少.google提供的那個不好用, 雖然支持中文, 但華人似乎不來. 文學城萬維這裡民風強悍. 一個帖子看下來,甭管看沒看明白,先喊打喊殺一番. backchina訪問量不行(跟這裡1:20-40吧). 而且文風基本風花雪月的多, 國計民生的少. 一篇東西上去, 不少問你講的什麼意思, 要不就問些個不着調的問題, 看了這些跟貼有種焚琴煮鶴的感覺. 聯合博客網新起來的, 不知道能維持多久. 剩下國內新浪搜狐, 犯忌的關鍵詞稍微有點馬上就得給封了貼.呵呵, 淨土不容易找啊.
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作者:carfieldcat 留言時間:2007-04-21 18:44:05
To Anon,

你的書單不錯,我只讀過Zinn的書和Mississippi Chinese,我會找個時間去圖書館翻翻其他的。朋友推薦了兩本書,是從拉丁裔角度寫他們的美國史的,我也列在下面:

1. Occupied America: The Chicano's Struggle Toward Liberation, Rodolfo Acuna, Canfield Press, San Francisco, 1972;
2. The White Scourge: Mexicans, Blacks, and Poor Whites in Texas Cotton Culture, Neil Foley, University of California Press, 1997.

另外一本書是我自己正在看的:
The Illusion of Inclusion: The Untold Political Story of San Antonio, University of Texas Press, 2000. 講述的是拉丁裔在Texas參加美國政治的里程和他們的教訓。
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作者:carfieldcat 留言時間:2007-04-21 18:30:01
To 老貓

小米粥那裡藏了很多好東西,有時間打砸搶去。
我慚愧,雖然也是社會科學的,但是和艱深的政治學、社會學或者哲學沒有關係,然而你知道的,社會科學之間的界限是非常模糊的。你說喬姆斯基是語言學家還是政治學家,杜威是哲學家還是教育家,薩義德是宗教學家、東方學家還是社會學家?實在要說個專業,那就是水利學吧,灌水的 :)

To Sky

Sky真牛人也。這年頭沒有手機沒有博客的人才叫酷呢。如果Sky願寫博客,我願找三兩同道,覓一方網絡淨土,建一個帶RSS功能的博客合寫,興之所至,大家以自由之精神,獨立之人格,煮酒談史論今,如何?
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作者:anon 留言時間:2007-04-21 18:24:35
呵呵,多謝Sky網友提醒.確實是刻薄了一點.以後要寬容些,免得將D版加菲貓的辯論場搞成打口水戰的戰場了.
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作者:sky 留言時間:2007-04-21 17:46:16
passerby網友提問“害怕是可恥的嗎?”也問得好。
害怕並不可恥,害怕是人的常見的情緒,是對現實情況的正常反應。之所以會感到擔心,害怕,是因為現實生活中充滿了令人不安的因素---這就是:歧視,對少數族裔的歧視,對亞裔,對華裔的歧視,隱性的或赤裸裸的歧視,時不時的會出現在我們的日常生活中。
我們只有認識這點,才能考慮怎麼對付歧視。

anon 網友對這個問題很有研究,佩服。列出的書單對我也會有幫助。謝謝。[嘿,我還有那本“來自於不同海岸的陌生人”的書呢!]
但我覺得anon對KryingLove網友的態度似乎harsh了一點。不管你對什麼事情是不是想透了,都應該有資格發言,對吧?我們就是通過對話,討論,解開一些疑團,找出問題的答案。還有,對於用何種語言,也別硬性規定。想咋說就咋說,中英隨意,文白由人,反正大家都是雙語“人才”,呵呵。

KryingLove的主張其實在華人移民中蠻有代表性。
華人是和平主義者,不想同別人發生衝突,以為“視而不見”才算“正面對待”,以為“視而不見”,衝突就不存在。可惜,事情不是這樣。如果有人對你說 Go back to China, 你躲也躲不開,你只有迎頭反擊:What do you mean?

鍋爐網友的帖子,很有意思,談到少數族裔面對主流文化的性別差異。

D版加菲貓新帖的墨西哥裔美國記者文章,又是一個新視點。謝謝。

對,安寇特就是那個咀咒911未亡人的那個heartless person, Coulter。

sky has no blog (does everyone have a blog now?--I am terribly behind then!) but will come visit this site often. Thanks for recommending 小米粥博客。

Oh yes, new formula in journalism: Sneed = Rumor-spreading. Period.
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作者:黑山老貓 留言時間:2007-04-21 17:31:26
carfieldcat, 謝謝推薦小米粥, 他寫的東東不少啊. 都很棒. 的確象你說的, 大俠級的. 另: 好奇,悄悄問一下(萬維這鬼地方怎麼連個站內快信功能也沒有), 想知道carfieldcat是什麼專業的, 社會學, 國政/國關, 還是傳說中的哲學??
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作者:usagi 留言時間:2007-04-21 16:57:02
I went to Wayne Chiang's blog

the freaking kid is an american for crying out loud

he seroiusly needs to sue Sneed for Slandering, harrassment as well as emotional damage.
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作者:carfieldcat 留言時間:2007-04-21 15:42:37
經原作者同意,轉一個墨西哥裔美國記者對這件事情的思考。

I don’t know about you, but it feels like the Virginia Tech massacre that took place on the campus of the Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University in Blacksburg, VA has left people emotionally drained. I know that I am. This is now being considered the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history and as it stands, Cho Seung-hui killed 32 people and injuring at least 30 others before turning the gun on himself.

It was also reported that the Virginia Tech massacre resembles another campus shooting that occurred in Austin, TX, where Charles Joseph Whitman, the Texas Tower sniper, fired 150 high-powered rounds of ammunition from the University of Texas Tower killing 16 people and wounding nearly 50 people. Until now, UT shooting was considered the deadliest campus shooting in US history. It has even surpassed the Luby’s massacre of 1991, in which twenty-four people were killed.

All this news can be found on almost any blog and news website. As more and more news emerges, there are several disturbing facts that happen to be over looked, but reveal a lot about how this country handles a crisis.

Playing the “Blame the Immigrant” Game: Inaccurate media reports
Once it was reported that the shooter was an Asian immigrant, Asians have suddenly become the latest media topic. However, there is more than scapegoat one particular group; during the chaos, there was a troubling sign from the media in trying to link an individual act with something larger. Soon after the story broke, Chicago Sun-Times columnist Michael Sneed initially reported (which is no longer online) that the shooter was not only a Chinese immigrant but also a possible terrorist. The original link to that story has been updated with the correct information; however, the original report can still be viewed in its entirety on the pro-gun community forum named The Firing Line. Sneed wrote:

Authorities were investigating whether the gunman who killed 32 people on the Virginia Tech campus in the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history was a Chinese man who arrived in the United States last year on a student visa.

The 24-year-old man arrived in San Francisco on United Airlines on Aug. 7 on a visa issued in Shanghai, the source said. Investigators have not linked him to any terrorist groups, the source said.

In an apparent effort to be on top of the story, it was immediately picked up and cited by other corporate media, such as FOX News, MSNBC, and ABC News. A screen shot of the article can be found on the blog, Letters from China.

Even worse, one of the most unfortunate media debacles over the VA Tech shootings was the false accusations levied against Wayne Chiang, a Chinese-American who happens to collect guns and who also attends VT who also recently broke up with his girlfriend. Without waiting for the details from the local authority and going on a unfounded and stereotype-based “tip,” Fox News reporters Geraldo Rivera and Megyn Kelly insisted that Wayne Chiang “might have been the perpetrator” as Fox News not only were searching for his residence but also kept broadcasting his pictures from his Facebook page all over the airwaves.

… on the Fox Network, Geraldo Rivera broadcast Chiang’s Facebook page - though not his name - stating, “people might suspect that this might have been the perpetrator.” Fox News correspondent Megyn Kelly then explained how, upon discovery of Chiang’s profile, the channel searched for him.

Sadly, Chiang was not only a victim of profiling, but also a victim of the old stereotype that “all Asians look the same.” Or, as he put it, was “five for five.” According Chiang, he was forced to go public after an Internet lynch mob targeted Chaing throughout the day with “numerous death threats, slanderous accusations, and ….. [a] barrage of [phone] calls.” By the end, his site had over 166,000 page views and on Tuesday, he had over 333,000 people visit his site. On the day of the massacre, his site was quickly filled with hate-filled comments such as: “so u are the asisan that shot up the school. i hate u and your people.” (note: comments are closed now)

In an interview with ABC, Chiang said: “Right now pretty much the internet thinks it is me … I am just interested in trying to clear my name.” One would think that once the gunman was properly identified this was an open and shut case in the court of public opinion, no debate, time to move on, unfortunately, this is not the case for Chaing. According to Chiang’s latest entry, he is still being “misidentified” as the shooter.

But Chiang wasn’t the only one who discovered how effective the internet can be in spreading unstoppable slurs and libel, At one point mechanical engineering student James Jay Kim also was “outed” as the killer. Kim was originally named in a Facebook discussion, which was later mention on the popular online encyclopedia, Wikipedia. The page was removed an hour later.

James Jay Kim was named in a Facebook discussion between students when one user asked the question: ‘Does anyone know who the shooter is?’ Kim’s name was posted in a reply, with other participants claiming they had been told by sources at the university that it was ‘definitely’ him.

It is not surprising for people to overreact in a time of crises; sometimes people may mishear or misinterpret information they may have heard. However, I don’t think that person misheard the news they were told from their inside sources from the university. The picture below is an AP photo taken by The Roanoke Times Alan Kim, the caption states: “An unidentified man is restrained during a manhunt on the Virginia Tech campus.” Unfortunately, it remains unclear who that person was and if he actually played a role in the shooting or if that person is actually James Jay Kim. These are questions we may never know or find out.


Since the media never apologized for misleading the public that day, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao criticized the media the next day and said “that it is was a terrible mistake and a violation of professional ethics to publish reports before checking the facts.”

What is unfortunate about the aftermath of this tragedy is not that it further proves that this county is xenophobic, but the sloppy reporting actually had consequences. Because of Sneed’s column, a host of international websites carried the story with such headlines “Chinese student suspected of Virginia massacre,” which actually caused a near panic in China. When the report turned out to be incorrect, Sneed’s article was removed and updated, however, Sneed, without apologizing, provided a weak excuse for her reckless reporting.

Sneed’s online report Monday afternoon stated the initial investigation led law enforcement authorities to a preliminary suspect, who was a man from China.

Details and a description of the preliminary suspect accompanied reports available to law enforcement agencies via a national network checking on possible terrorist activities.

Sneed was not the only who tried to cover up their mess after causing a stir. According to a post on Sepia Mutiny, right-wing pundit Debbie Schlussel reported that the shooter might be a “Paki” Muslim and according to Media Matters, she also claimed it was part of “a coordinated terrorist attack.”

The Virginia Tech campus has a very large Muslim community, many of which are from Pakistan (per terrorism investigator Bill Warner).

Pakis are considered “Asian.”

Even if it does not turn out that the shooter is Muslim, this is a demonstration to Muslim jihadists all over that it is extremely easy to shoot and kill multiple American college students.

Unsurprisingly, Schlussel also deleted her post from her blog, stating she was “spending too much time monitoring the slimy comments from the Nazi-infested Media Matters for America cretins.”

This is a disturbing trend among white media pundits in an effort to steer an entire population into thinking that one individual represents a whole community, even to the point of personifying a whole nation. They have no problem conjuring up bogeymen out of thin air, creating enemies out of lies and manipulations. To them, it is all about the rates and the first to provide a juicy gossip regardless if they ruined the lives and careers of honorable men and women; or create division and animosity between citizens. And when they’re caught, it has become second nature to amend their information in real time to cover up their sloppy tracks.

It is not surprising to see the political and media establishment responding to the Virginia Tech massacre as it does to every significant event of social malaise, with a combination of denial and self-delusion. It will be business as usual where a large majority of our society will never talk about the dirty little secret of assimilation or the myth of America’s model minority and how it does not always prevent racial alienation, rage, or depression.

Once, in English class, the teacher had the students read aloud, and when it was Cho’s turn, he just looked down in silence, Davids recalled. Finally, after the teacher threatened him with an F for participation, Cho started to read in a strange, deep voice that sounded “like he had something in his mouth,” Davids said.

“As soon as he started reading, the whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, ‘Go back to China,’” Davids said.

“There were just some people who were really mean to him and they would push him down and laugh at him,” Roberts said. “He didn’t speak English really well and they would really make fun of him.”

Given that the model minority myth elevates Asians over minority groups, we can expect to see Cho dissected as an anomaly among South Koreans who “are not prone” to violence. But one thing for sure, this tragedy will only add fuel to the heated immigration debate and the need to increase deportation.
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作者:anon 留言時間:2007-04-21 14:39:31
To KryingLove:

對於社會問題,它展現在眾人面前的總是立體的多層次的,所以看同一社會問題的人,也因所受教育及所能思考的深淺而有不同的看法. 比如作者在這裡所寫的,我認為體現了他對美國的過去及現在的社會和種族問題的深刻理解. 這也是為什麼我非常認同他/她文中所言”cho的心理問題其實是美國的社會問題.”

如果你讀書,那建議你認真了解一下美國歷史, 搞清楚美洲印第安人是如何一步步被弄到保留地的(Indian Reservations),美國內戰之後重建其間非裔美國人的民權是如何被”保障”的,內戰之後的Jim Crow Laws是什麼,是怎麼回事? 搞清楚美國民權運動是怎麼回事? 搞清楚了,你再繼續看自1848-49年Gold Rush之後華人在美國的歷史, 認真讀一下1882年的排華法案, 了解20世紀上半葉華人移民怎麼變成了以吸收受過高等教育的為主了? 了解好萊塢生產的Dr. Fu Manchu是怎麼回事? … …

如果你也讀書,那我給你列幾本書,抽時間讀一下(由易到難排列):
Howard Zinn “A People’s History of the United States, ”
Ronald Takaki的”Strangers From a Different Shore: a History of Asian Americans,”
James Loewen “The Mississippi Chinese:Between Black and White,”
Winthrop Jordan “White Man’s Burden,”
Eric Wolf “Europe and the People Without History,”
David Roediger “The Wages of Whiteness.”

讀完之後,用你的腦子仔細思考. 然後, 你才有資格到這裡對作者的文章及觀點進行品評, 你也有可能發覺你在2007年4月20日23:02:32的中文留言是多麼無知和愚蠢. 在此之前,你根本沒有資格說作者的觀點”not healthy”.

我從來反對學究化,但是只有用知識武裝了大腦,你才能對這個社會有更清晰深刻地認識.認識的目的,不是產生更多的仇恨, 而是積累你的智慧,不僅僅為你個人,而是為群體,為社會中處於弱勢的人提供幫助去對抗強權.

給KryingLove的題外話:既然你會說中文,建議以後在這裡發言就不要再用英文來說話了.你的英文水平,大家一看就明了,無須以後在中國人中間再次證明了.
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作者:usagi 留言時間:2007-04-21 09:25:34
to Krying Love

please dont take what im about to say as a personal attack

when you say that as long as there is no LAW indicate the RACIAL Discrimation, then we are fine.

but you see, that's where you are wrong. LAW is WRITEN BY PEOPLE. if the supreme court can over rule the constitution, or make exceptions over it, then you know that no one is safe here. even the Latino Community understands that concept.

(FYI. the supreme court has Thomas Jefferson to thank for such power; Latin Americans were considered White before Brown Vs. Board of Education, B vs. BE was not the first colored case that were taken to the Supreme Court, there was another one involving a Mexican American immigrant as defendant case which was brought before the Supreme Court, and that case was the first colored case. )

that is merely the reason why there are over 30 or so seats been taken by the Latin community in the House of Reps. and only 11 or so Asians. and there are only so many seats in the House.

if you do not have a voice, then no one will hear you. just like what the Americans always say, Squeaky wheel, gets the oil.

and the Latin community understands that, so does the African-Ameircan community. Why do you think now there is a bill that's about to pass mainly concerning the illegal immigrants here in the US ? and the majority of that population is Latin Americans ?

if the congress can pass the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882, then it certainly can happen again. the only matter concerning here is when.
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作者:KryingLove 留言時間:2007-04-20 20:02:32
謝謝你的善意邀請。關於歧視,包括種族歧視,我覺得有兩種態度。在制度上在政治上要堅決反對,在個人層面在在日常生活中要正面對待,甚止視而不見。經常以帶戒備的心情看事情你從心理就成了少數,成了小國寡民,這對一個人沒有一點好處。所以,除非你是搞政治的想以此立論立身,就不要扯這麽多事情到種族歧視的頭上。你舉的例子基本上與種族歧視無關。對別人有偏見的人到處都有,並且歧視它人的理由不一而足,往往這都是些狹隘的小人,沒必要跟其認真。只要制度上政治上沒有歧視的條款,我們就該理直氣壯。我從來不讓別人的臉色而影響我的生活。
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