前不久我参加了一篇由名叫Ömer Yıldız的人在academia.edu上贴出的关于UFO和外星人的文章（https://www.academia.edu/s/e71af5ac1c）的讨论。期间我和该文作者有下面这段对话: Rongqing Dai
30 days ago Thanks for the invitation. Are you sure that UFO's and aliens are real? If you think that UFO's and aliens are real, how could you assume that they are not on planet earth? If you assume that UFO's and aliens are on planet earth, how could you assume that they are here just for fun like tourists? If you assume that they are here and not as tourists, how could you assume they are not involved in our everyday life? If you assume that they are involved in our everyday life, how could you assume they are not bossing us if you assume that their civilization is much more advanced than earth civilization? If you assume that they are actually bossing us, how could you assume that governments do not know them? If you assume that they are the boss and the governments know them, well, who do you apeal to now to get the transparency that you want? SO the real question is: Are the UFO's and aliens real? Cheers, Ron Ömer Yıldız
29 days ago Dear Ron, Your logical chain is truly striking and excellent. If there is indeed such a hierarchical structure as you’ve described—a 'boss' above and governments following suit—it perfectly explains why transparency is constantly hitting a brick wall and why data is being swept under the rug. Perhaps the lack of transparency exists precisely because of this hierarchy? However, my core question remains: If this is the reality, why does the scientific community still insist on labeling these incidents as mere 'anomalies' and dismissing them? Instead of accepting the existence of these 'bosses' as a new law of physics, why does science choose silence? I really appreciated your thoughts; thank you for adding such a dark but rational depth to the debate. Rongqing Dai
29 days ago Dear Ömer, If that hierarchy does exist, then the easiest domain to be manipulated would be the scientific community....the so called scientific authorities have been very successfully manipulating the scientific community for a long time....most amazing part of this type of manipulation is that it is across the border of any country.....the whole world has been loyal to a scientific centre which does not even have a headquarters.....If you do not believe that, just try to jump out to challenge any mainstream scientific doctrine that is actually wrong....you will be treated like a negative by people from all countries.....Of course that is just human nature, not proof of alien manipulation..... So the real question is: Are UFO's and aliens real? Cheers, Ron Ömer Yıldız
28 days ago Dear Ron, The most striking point in your analysis is that science has evolved into a global 'guardian of doctrine' rather than a tool for discovery. As you pointed out, the collective reaction triggered when mainstream scientific doctrines are challenged fundamentally contradicts the very principle of 'skepticism' that science claims to uphold. As you mentioned, it is highly likely that this situation stems from human nature—the instinct to preserve the status quo. However, a paradox emerges here: if the scientific community is under a manipulation so harmonious that it appears to be managed from a single center, despite being decentralized, then the UFO/UAP reality is the most significant empirical data hitting this 'doctrinal wall.' The scientific community’s tendency to dismiss these events by labeling them as 'anomalies' may actually be a form of 'willful ignorance.' Accepting the reality of these phenomena would not only shatter current laws of physics but also the unshakeable institutional hierarchy upon which modern science is built. To address your core question: 'Are UFOs and aliens real?' If the available data—radar tracks and physical traces—demonstrate capabilities that mainstream science deems 'impossible,' then it is the data that is real, and the doctrine that is flawed. Perhaps the 'bosses' are drawing the boundaries of science themselves, ensuring that we perceive anything beyond those borders as 'nonsense' or 'pseudoscience.' Recognizing this chain of manipulation is the first step toward a solution. Thank you for providing such a broad perspective to this discussion. Best regards, Ömer. 你们怎么看这个问题呢？
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