Guermantes Lailari: [00:13:30] But they emphasize that it was highly sophisticated equipment, both in the weapons area and in the electronics and communication and intelligence area. And probably the third important factor was there were two PLA engineers that they found in the tunnels. And China rapidly tried to put pressure on Israel to return them and even try to get the Russians to put some pressure on Israel to return these two guys. And they went back to China.
Guermantes Lailari：[ 00:13:30 ] 但他們強調，這些設備非常先進，
既包括武器裝備，也包括電子、通信和情報設備。第三個重要因素
可能是他們在隧道里發現了兩名解放軍工程師。中國迅速向以色列
施壓，要求他們歸還這些工程師，甚至試圖讓俄羅斯也向以色列
施壓，要求他們歸還這兩名工程師。結果他們最終回到了中國。
[00:14:00] 我認為他們沒有受到審訊。我不確定。但為什麼加沙會有
兩名解放軍隧道工程師？對我來說，這非常可疑。事實上，我們
不知道，例如，是否有之前的工程師在那裡幫助他們設計整個隧道
網絡，我們不得而知。但我們可以懷疑，中國參與了幫助哈馬斯
設計這些綿延數英里、非常複雜的隧道。
這些隧道配備了氣壓系統。所以，如果隧道的一部分被炸毀，不會
影響到另一部分。你知道，這些都不是恐怖分子通常會設計成他們
網絡的一部分。所以，以上就是我們實地發現的大致情況。這可以
說是中國和哈馬斯之間的直接聯繫。我想，最後一點，如果你想讓
我深入探討一下，那就是“三場戰爭”的概念。
[00:14:00]I don't think they were interrogated. I don't know for sure. But why are there two PLA tunnel engineers in Gaza? To me, that's very suspect. And the fact is that we don't know, for example, if there were previous engineers there and helping them design the entire network, we don't know. But we can suspect that that there was some involvement of China in helping Hamas design these tunnels that went on for miles and miles and were very sophisticated.
They had air pressure systems. So if one part of the tunnel was blown up, it wouldn't affect another part. These are not things that, you know, terrorists typically design as part of their network. So that's kind of the rough facts on the ground that were found. And that is sort of the China-Hamas direct connection. And I guess the last part, if you want me to get into is the three war concept.
