Guermantes Lailari: [00:13:30] But they emphasize that it was highly sophisticated equipment, both in the weapons area and in the electronics and communication and intelligence area. And probably the third important factor was there were two PLA engineers that they found in the tunnels. And China rapidly tried to put pressure on Israel to return them and even try to get the Russians to put some pressure on Israel to return these two guys. And they went back to China.
Guermantes Lailari：[ 00:13:30 ] 但他们强调，这些设备非常先进，
既包括武器装备，也包括电子、通信和情报设备。第三个重要因素
可能是他们在隧道里发现了两名解放军工程师。中国迅速向以色列
施压，要求他们归还这些工程师，甚至试图让俄罗斯也向以色列
施压，要求他们归还这两名工程师。结果他们最终回到了中国。
[00:14:00] 我认为他们没有受到审讯。我不确定。但为什么加沙会有
两名解放军隧道工程师？对我来说，这非常可疑。事实上，我们
不知道，例如，是否有之前的工程师在那里帮助他们设计整个隧道
网络，我们不得而知。但我们可以怀疑，中国参与了帮助哈马斯
设计这些绵延数英里、非常复杂的隧道。
这些隧道配备了气压系统。所以，如果隧道的一部分被炸毁，不会
影响到另一部分。你知道，这些都不是恐怖分子通常会设计成他们
网络的一部分。所以，以上就是我们实地发现的大致情况。这可以
说是中国和哈马斯之间的直接联系。我想，最后一点，如果你想让
我深入探讨一下，那就是“三场战争”的概念。
[00:14:00]I don't think they were interrogated. I don't know for sure. But why are there two PLA tunnel engineers in Gaza? To me, that's very suspect. And the fact is that we don't know, for example, if there were previous engineers there and helping them design the entire network, we don't know. But we can suspect that that there was some involvement of China in helping Hamas design these tunnels that went on for miles and miles and were very sophisticated.
They had air pressure systems. So if one part of the tunnel was blown up, it wouldn't affect another part. These are not things that, you know, terrorists typically design as part of their network. So that's kind of the rough facts on the ground that were found. And that is sort of the China-Hamas direct connection. And I guess the last part, if you want me to get into is the three war concept.
