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作者:国人 |
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留言时间:2008-01-03 00:14:20 |
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好一个同情贺梅受到伤害,而斥责那个不可饶恕的贺绍强.并且再来个不要污蔑贝克.更有甚者把贝克归为” 美国人中亦有善良之辈”.她们在这里为” 真相和真理”而辩!? 萆民之见是: 雄辩的贝克律师败诉只能证明贝克夺贺梅不法. 贺梅案立法说明贝克爱贺梅不义. 笑咪咪之辈该属哪类?根据她们的真理和情感的偏向,不归为欺软怕硬,崇洋媚外,该为哪般(这种人大陆不少)? 贺绍强胜诉是一次挫败白人主义及金钱主义而伸张正义的事件.在这事件中可以看到来自美国多方少数族裔,律师界和美国学者,华裔学者的支持. |
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作者:支持笑眯眯 |
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留言时间:2008-01-01 02:20:24 |
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评论本身没有什么错误,反驳也是权利,但是谩骂就肯定不对。 笑眯眯说自己的看法,这是她的观点,很诚恳的观点,反对者为什么要骂人?如果你们是贺绍强的朋友,你们在骂别人素质低之前,先看看自己,尤其是你们这样对待一位女士,合适吗? 说贺绍强的为人,谈对案子的看法,是两个问题,为什么一碰到关于贺绍强的话题,就有人跳起来?正常吗? 贺绍强这个案子,就是个民事案子,是个人行为,别扯什么国家、民族的,他就代表我们的民族? 你们这些骂人的人,是不是都跟他一样?公开说他代表你,比如性骚扰、把孩子丢给别人喂羊、说话没准儿,你就这样啊? 我不明白,为什么有些人不谈道德,不讲良心,就是骂人、讲歪理,这是咱中国人的素质、标准?我首先不同意! |
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笑眯眯 and Easy are examples to us. Even if both of them are wrong, what they said are constructive. We have learnt something from them. What do you think, wustorm, 中国牛, """, 新力, acbdefg, 路人, 罠地, 楼主属狗, and 国人? |
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作者:笑眯眯 |
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留言时间:2007-12-29 23:33:42 |
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回Easy, 根据你的信息,我可能的确有一些错误的认识。 我当然希望贺梅得到真正的父母的爱。 事实的真相可能只有当事人知道吧。以后我不会再评论贺梅案了。 只希望贺梅受到的伤害能够降低到最小。 |
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作者:Easy |
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留言时间:2007-12-29 21:59:12 |
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To 笑眯眯: I see, you actually know very little about this case. Worse yet, you don't WANT to know. You got some superficial information and insist on blaming that the Hes for leaving their daughter with the Bakers but ignore the fact that the Hes had been fighting to get back their daughter for 7-8 years as the Bakers tried to keep Anna Mae He illegally. As you already know, Mr. Baker hurt more people than Mr. He did with his insurance fraud. Character wise, Mr.Baker is never more fitting as a parent than Mr.He. The biggest damage is that growing up in the Baker household, Anna Mae develops self-hatred: she cannot accept the simple fact of herself being a Chinese. Nothing is worse than losing one's self esteem or self-respect, or the inability to accept oneself. In that case, the TN High Court made the right decision. How I wish you could take some basic child psychology course to understand the importance of selfhood, but you are welcome to carry on with your bias. |
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作者:笑眯眯 |
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留言时间:2007-12-29 16:48:54 |
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对不起,上面评论的最后一句应该是谁能够保证他以后不以其他的方式伤害贺梅? 我对于贺绍强所不齿的恰恰在于他注重自己的权利而不重视孩子的感受。 如果当初是经济原因不能抚养贺梅,那么为什么后来能够生2个孩子而仍然把贺梅留在贝克家?作为父母应该知道这样对孩子会造成什么影响。这和把孩子托付爷爷奶奶或者保姆是不同的,因为托付给爷爷奶奶活着保姆父母对于孩子还是应该有充分的关心,起码对于孩子有充分的影响,不会让孩子认为自己不是中国人,孩子受到贝克家的影响,而丝毫没有受到自己的父母的影响,这说明了什么?这说明贺绍强夫妻根本没有在贺梅身上花时间。自己种下的因,还要抱怨别人吗?贝克家也是凡人,为什么对于他们有这么多要求,却对于贺梅自己的父母要求那么少呢?本来,孩子是自己的责任,把孩子托付给别人,结果教育的结果同自己的意愿不符,难道不是责怪自己,还要怨恨别人吗?这个逻辑对于我来售台可笑了。即使是把孩子给爷爷奶奶,如果养成不好的习惯,难道做父母的可以责怪爷爷奶奶吗?在这个意义上来说,所有的责任都在贺绍强身上,我没有办法去责备贝克家,因为他们对于贺梅本来就没有责任 |
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作者:笑眯眯 |
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留言时间:2007-12-29 16:40:09 |
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楼上的, 多谢分享你的观点及信息。我的文章只是表达我的看法,如有偏颇之处,我是很欢迎大家指出来的,比如像你的评论。我所不大乐意看到的是很多不同意见的人除了肆意谩骂,并没有什么见解,这样我觉得毫无意义。 你说的也许有道理,我对于法律没有多少了解,只是出于一个做母亲的角度,觉得贺梅不是被别人,却恰恰是被自己的父母所伤害,这个令我痛心。 也许贺绍强对于贺梅有很多权利,但是,谁来补偿贺梅在这个过程中受到的伤害?贺绍强有认识到自己的错误吗?如果没有,谁能够保证他以后以其他的方式伤害贺梅? |
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作者:Easy |
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留言时间:2007-12-29 01:12:48 |
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笑眯眯: you are not able to comprehend why the TN court decision points out that the Bakers were wrong to step over the boundary as a foster caregiver--what a pity. Foster parents are not adoptive parents. Foster parents have the duty to take care of the child that's put in their care but in order to adopt the child they need the birth parents' permission, which the Bakers did not receive. Mr. He may have some questionable behavior, but that's not the ground to rip off his parental right. Mr. Baker has some questionable behavior, too, for instance, he had insurance fraud. You don't know the victims of Mr. Baker's fraud. If you do, you might have a different view about this case. However, Mr. Baker can still be the father to his own kids. I hope you could do some in-depth research before airing your opinion. |
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作者:笑眯眯 |
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留言时间:2007-12-28 09:08:00 |
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看楼上的,真是让人哭笑不得。就这种素质怎么替贺说话嘛,这不是给挺贺派脸上抹黑吗?这不是从反面支持我吗? |
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狗屁不通, 博客上全是这样的狗屁不通的烂文章.
农村出来的,快四十了还说些可笑的/自私的/没文化的话.
大家就当看笑话吧! |
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作者:笑眯眯 |
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留言时间:2007-12-27 22:26:41 |
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回一读者 谢谢你 我们都是凡人,免不了有虚荣心和自尊心,因而在辩论时会不由自主地努力维护自己的观点,我只希望自己能够保持辩论的精神,能够通过辩论得到真相和真理,而不是为了维护自己的正确性而辩论。我个人对于人身攻击不以为意,因为理亏的人才会不讲道理而只是空洞地骂人,这其实是弱者的表现,让别人更加容易看透他们虚弱的本质。 |
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作者:一读者 |
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留言时间:2007-12-27 20:54:35 |
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看了33条跟贴,觉得笑眯眯真不容易。敢于直抒己见者和敢于因正义感说话者,从来在人类里是少数。也许不同意见也有道理,但干嘛要火气那么大呢?这真是个问题,值得想想。 |
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作者:鄙视贺某 |
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留言时间:2007-12-27 19:38:38 |
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作者:笑眯眯 |
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留言时间:2007-12-27 15:30:53 |
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不知道贺梅案立法是立的怎样的法?如果只是因为生了孩子就对于孩子有所有权,而不关心孩子的状况,那我觉得真的是一个退步。 |
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作者:笑眯眯 |
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留言时间:2007-12-27 15:18:25 |
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点点叹息, 你说得非常中肯。谢谢 你是问我什么时候回新加坡?看来你认识我,呵呵 12月31号从美国出发,1月1号到新加坡 |
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作者:笑咪咪 |
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留言时间:2007-12-27 14:59:54 |
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1。孩子是独立的个体,在人格上同父母是平等的,不是父母的附属品,因而我对于父母权颇为质疑。不知道有没有人能够解释父母权到底是什么意思 2。贺梅在整个案件中受到了什么样的伤害?她如何接受爱她的两方(自己的亲生父母和贝克家)是死对头的事实? 3。当初把孩子丢给贝克家抚养的贺,是真正的爱孩子吗?如果他们再度遭遇困境,会不会做出同样类似的事情呢? 4。谁是真个案件的始作俑者?我认为是贺。贺绍强有没有反省过自己的错误,他有没有像贺梅道歉?而是因为自己时父亲所以对贺梅做什么都是天经地义? |
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作者:点点叹息 |
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留言时间:2007-12-26 21:21:50 |
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我们不是当事人, 永远无从知道事情的真相. 从网上得到的信息来看, 贺某人的人格太多让人质疑的地方, 他个人来说是绝对不值得帮的. 很明显, 其实帮贺家的都是出于民族心. 试想想如果一切情节不变, 只是换换当事人的国籍, 托婴者为日本人, 育婴者为中国人, 相信网上的浪潮方向会有很大的改变. 中国人中有害群之马, 美国人中亦有善良之辈. 这点其实大家都明白. 只可惜在美的中国人要被这不值的贺某人所累, 无辜招来许多白眼. 不甘心的人于是不管心里是否真认可贺某人所为, 也要为他加油. 只有在心里叹口气吧. 就事论事吧, 对楼主的人身攻击能消除你心里那份憋屈的难受劲吗? 我们身在国外, 胸前都是戴着中国人的名牌, 淡化了张三李四的具体. 谁不希望同族中星光熠熠, 处处彰显大中华气势. 可偏偏有点点LSS, 不承认也解决不了问题. 大家心平气和点吧, 那样才是良性的发展.
X, 什么时候回来? |
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作者:yuer |
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留言时间:2007-12-26 20:47:37 |
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在三个月大就把孩子送给别人,声称经济困难却能够另外生2个孩子,而把老大继续留在别人家里的父母,不断利用孩子要捐款的卑劣的父母,能够给贺梅怎样的影响?他们做的事情是爱孩子的的父母做的吗? |
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老刘 wrote: "为什么不同意见的贴子火气都那么大? Is it true? Take a look!
wustorm wrote: "lz,我都懒得骂你了,觉得你连被骂的资格都没有!" looks to me, wustorm has already骂ed a few others with just different 作者 names. Hey, 中国牛, """, 新力, acbdefg, 路人, 罠地, 楼主属狗, 国人. are you wustorm? Well done! |
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作者:wustorm |
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留言时间:2007-12-26 19:23:39 |
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作者:也看 |
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留言时间:2007-12-26 16:42:15 |
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作者:国人 |
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留言时间:2007-12-26 16:33:43 |
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如果贝克面对的是黑人父母.他一个屁也不敢放.你信不? |
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作者:楼主属狗 |
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留言时间:2007-12-26 14:14:36 |
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楼主这种人,一定是:见到比他/她有钱的,立马断了脊梁骨,和哈巴狗别无二致;见了比他/她没钱的穷人,断了的脊梁骨立马挺直,横眉冷对,趾高气昂。像楼主这种人,在中国的某些大城市,着实不少。 |
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What a fucking idiot you are! (┣ぐ羆Τㄇい瓣﹚璶祇祇翴ぃ硄抡ē阶ㄓ靡琌秨㎡)
The truth of the matter is, if any one have a shred of common sense or some basic knowledge of law should know that the judge awarded the kid to the birth parents is the only right decision. However, those mind-freaking dumb-ass parents ought be sent to jail for a year or two because of their mind boggling decision to entrusted their "loving daughter" to some mean spirited white strangers! And for those of you who does not know how evil are the god damn Bakers, perhaps you ought do a little bit more research on this matter before you open up your cock-sucking big mouth! But here is some facts, maybe this will help broaden your fucking horizon. Fact: She told the judge that she is a Mexican, but NOT a Chinese. Fact: The Bakers had brain washed the kid to the point that she told the judge she hates Chinese, she hates everything about Chinese.
Now, if anyone still agree with the idiot who wrote this piece of garbage, then may I say this to you: JUST GO FUCK YOURSELF, YOU SLIMY MOTHER FUCKING SCUMBAG, YOU ARE A DISGRACE NOT ONLY TO THE CHINESE BUT THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE!!! |
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作者:老刘 |
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留言时间:2007-12-26 04:51:50 |
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Totally agree with the author.
If you read all the things HE SHAOQIANG did, (just google Mei He), you will come to the same conclusion.
When He gave her daughter away, the reason is that he cannot bring her up due to financial reasons. ONE year later, he had another child! Did he not have the resources to bring his daughter up (with the help of the church group)? NOOOOOOOOOO!
So, why did HE give his daughter to others? HE has NO right to be a parent of the girl because he never act as a father as the girl need him to.
Not the suffer is all HE MEI's. She lost her real parents. AGAIN! |
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Passion after Christmas:
As parents, we give love to out children.
But Childresn are not BELONGING to any one.
And we have NO rights to forbid them off loves ( love by us , love by people who love them ).
The little kid have rights to enjoy the loves from her papa , mama, and the famliy she had been growing up.
"Papa, Mama, Why can not see you any more." The kid will ask her parents who bring brith to her. The kid will ask her parents who breed her.
It is misery when no love remains on both side!
This is cruel world controlled by adult.
We only come to GOD who is nothing (shit!),"Pleas forgive us." |
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作者:不明白 |
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留言时间:2007-12-25 19:50:25 |
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零星读过关于贺家的一些新闻,不真正了解他们及他们的故事,不知谁能介绍一下? 1)记得贺先生曾涉及性骚扰指控,不知怎么了解的? 2)贺先生当初无力供养贺梅,怎么后来有生了几个孩子?有工作了么? 3)现在为什么要回国?记得看到一则消息说贺先生说自己一直是要回到自己祖国的,而另一则消息说贺先生对记者说是身份过期,为了以后能重新来美,现在才按时回国,并说希望他的教会以后能帮他申请美国身份,以使他以后能合法在美工作生活,到底哪个说法正确? 4) 为什么需要捐款?他不是有能力供养几个孩子吗?
希望知情者或贺先生本人看到我的问题,能给解释一下,大家把事情搞清楚对解决事情有好处,最好不要互相攻击,谩骂;大家都是中国人,都是或将是为人父母吗. |
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作者:中国人 |
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留言时间:2007-12-25 19:32:24 |
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你是大陆人吗?也许是吃了McDonald的Hamburger而忘记自己是谁.贺梅案是人性和人权的问题.按照贝克的逻辑:白人的爱+财富可以剥夺穷人的母爱和做母亲的权力!这就是贺梅案立法的原因! |
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作者:WuMin |
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留言时间:2007-12-25 19:17:54 |
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Very well said, right to the point! |
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