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作者:兰君 |
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留言时间:2012-12-31 21:21:17 |
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作者:宣教士 |
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留言时间:2012-07-30 07:44:34 |
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谢博主好文! 同意华山“这伦敦奥运开幕表演算是打尽了民族牌了”的说法。我个人认为北京奥运与伦敦奥运都有明显的driven by inferior因素在其中,一个“文明古国”,一个没落帝国,都想要显示自己的文化底蕴,所以很在乎别人怎样看自己的“优点”,所以两届开幕式实际上都很精彩,各有千秋,只是中国人更自卑,花钱在面子工程上更大而已。老美其实是较没文化的牛仔,凭相对不在乎别人如何看自己,总是老子天上第一的作派,但帝国一但开始衰落的时候,就开始在乎别人如何看自己了。 |
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作者:goodies |
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留言时间:2012-07-29 12:48:28 |
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作者:hotmoon |
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留言时间:2012-07-28 20:11:00 |
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哦,你是泛指.....不是专指,不好意思,被你下面的跟贴误导.
不过也没理解错呀,种族情节越严重的民族,越自卑,所以白人(尤其是盎格鲁-撒克逊白人,日尔曼白人,维京人等等)是自卑中的最自卑,因为他们是最以自己种族为骄傲的人了....有木有...
美国有宣传白人至上的三K党,中国有没有宣传汉人至上的四K党?没有吧....所以美国白人比中国汉人自卑....有木有....
我当然是汉族了,难道你是混血儿?! 不过可以相当有知识的告诉你:你就是汉和女真,匈奴,蒙古,满等等的混血儿,几个世纪后,他们的后人也全称自己是汉人了....有木有...
这种情况在世界历史上层出不穷,比如说:英格兰第一位诺曼人国王-----威廉一世,他就不是盎格鲁-撒克逊人,好象他是北欧野蛮人的后裔....有木有....欧洲那血统才是真叫个乱,也不妨碍别人盎格鲁-撒克逊人,诺曼人,日尔曼人等等的自居和骄傲....有木有....
知道吗?闹民族虚无最历害的是谁?
是犹太人,想一想,世界语是谁发明的,就明白了......可这并不妨碍人家的犹太复国主义强盛到能把灭了三千年的国又给建了起来,把死了的希伯来语又给活了过来....有木有.....
左想右想,LZ还是比我无知.....有木有.....
尤其是您的最后一句"因此,那些整天叫嚣某个民族如何的人,一定是个自卑者。对于这一点,是毫无疑问的." 犯了和楼下另一位ID的同样的错误.....希望你们多读历史书....
民族主义者和自卑没有直接的逻辑关系, 同样, 民族虚无和自尊自强也没有直接的逻辑关系.....
明白了吗? |
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作者:深山兰 |
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留言时间:2012-07-28 18:05:05 |
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回复hotmoon
我本不想回答你,但你又跳出来,我不得不回答你几句。
首先,不管你受过什么教育,你连理解别人论点的能力都不具备。这是一个受过基本教育的人的起码能力。
我文章中没有强调什么民族,仅说一个民族中的某些个体高打民族牌的都是自卑的人。这是我的主要论点。而你却把一个民族作为一个人格化的个体人对待,从而把我的论点套上去。对待一个群体,仅仅能用统计规律去描述。随便告诉你一下,一种方法可以用正态分布去描述。你是否具有这个理解力,我无法知道。
你把一个民族作为一个人格化的个体对待,这种方法能是从那个垃圾堆里捡来的?
对于今天的白人而言,动辄把他的民族搬出来的人,基本都是自卑者。没错!其他民族中同样举止的人也是自卑者。
至于你说你是100%的汉族,更是对历史的惊人无知才敢这样胡说。
至于你对其他历史的判断,基本是疯话,我没有费口舌的必要。
你的逻辑的混乱程度,说明你受的教育是多么糟糕!至于你是属于什么类型的人,我不想下断语。
关于你引用罗素的话,我没有兴趣去查罗素的原话是怎样说的,以及本意是什么。
谢谢你的来访! |
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作者:华山 |
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留言时间:2012-07-28 16:11:49 |
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作者:hotmoon |
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留言时间:2012-07-28 09:09:23 |
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'在欧美国家生活的第一代华人移民,极不可能在西人面前忽悠此等言论,我料定这些人没有这种胆量。这些人的生活与心理必定时刻处于挣扎之中,是毫无疑问的。"
还有你,MR.朱,上面是你写的,你的态度VERY JUDGEMENTAL AND WAY TOO CHINESE.
你是如何得知“这些人没有这种胆量。这些人的生活与心理必定时刻处于挣扎之中,是毫无疑问的。"-----毫无根据的GUESS,还”毫无疑问“。。。这和现代文明西人的思维差异太大。。。。。有木有。。。
MR.朱还在国内某市某里弄住的呀。。。。怪不得。。。。。NARROW MINDED. |
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作者:hotmoon |
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留言时间:2012-07-28 08:59:36 |
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我无知,还是LZ无知?看看他写的:
“一个人若丧失了自信心,通常会借助自己民族这种抽象的东西来为自己打气。首先,强调一个民族如何好,如何伟大,这种论调会获得许多人的认同。他们会自我形成一个小圈子,自我陶醉。我的民族很伟大,我还不是也伟大吗?这是这种人一直在常用的,但却隐藏得很深的一个推理方式。”
这样说来,白人最自卑!有多少战争,种族清洗和他们的种族态度有关?!。。。。有木有。。。。
BTW,我是100%汉人。。。。历史上,汉族是不是被异族杀戮,汉族对其他民族进行过种族灭绝吗?罗素说了:中国的落后,都是因为他们文化的优点。。。。。有木有。。。。
上面两篇英文是从一个英文FORUM上顺手拈来的。。。。是给LZ看的,反讽。。。。明白了吗? |
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作者:朱衡 |
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留言时间:2012-07-28 05:33:18 |
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hotmoon:提醒一下,访问你的链接,只能等到下述结果: “Not Found The requested URL /anti_semitis...ros was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.”
用你的这个笔名也无法在forums.skadi.net搜索。你应该懂得中文和英语,也许还懂得德语?无论你是不是纯正的日耳曼人种,都是人才。
无知者无畏。多些书很难吗? |
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作者:hotmoon |
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留言时间:2012-07-27 23:43:38 |
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I, as an European inhabitant of Germanic descent and heritage,, want to make a small speech too:
"It´s not a matter of inferiority or superiority for me. I, as an European inhabitant of Germanic descent and heritage, want to preserve my heritage, my culture and just my people. My enviroment should not extinct. All races are on the same eye level, but since I´m "white"...let´s better say "European"..., I want to preserve my homelands. Thats just all.
Anyway...if you think back in history, very much important things were invented by people of European heritage: From cars over spaceflights to different machines, philosophical ideals and views, use of electricity, computers and so on and so on. In contrast, blacks/africans haven´t invented that much. I dont say that they are inferior, but they have really invented very less in the last thousand years in Africa. I dont know why. But I think if the Europeans wouldn´t have came to Africa, the people there would life with things they already had 5000 years ago even nowadays.
Well, the question is: Do they really need "our" inventions? It seems that they had an satisfied life even without our western inventions before the times of western imperialism came. And isn´t it all about satisfaction in life?
Anyway...as an European, I prefer Europe That doesn´t mean that I hate other countries/races. I just hate foreigners who are disrespectful against our culture/countries, especially if they are already IN our countries!"
HAHA.....I am an European inhabitant of Germanic descent and heritage and a nationalism. You still think I am inferior? __________________ |
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作者:hotmoon |
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留言时间:2012-07-27 22:10:04 |
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I would like to make a small speech here ,you Chinese all listen carefully:
Call me extremist, racist, or whatever you want but I do believe that Europids show supremacy in many aspects of life. In some aspects some races are in equal conditions as europids, but in others I honestly think that there's an evident superiority. So summing up: yes, I see Europids as a master or superior race.
However, the fact that I think that europids are "superior" doesn't mean that I hate all other races or that I don't respect them, my concept of superiority is more related to Darwin's theory of evolution rather than the "divine superiority" many people claim. I think it's even natural that a superior race exists, otherwise the human would be the only animal who doesn't evolve (if natural selection exists, means that to select the best there must be an inferior one).
Actually, the only races I dislike are jews and negroes. Even more, I have written in some ocations in this forum about my admiration towards some races who developed wonderful civilizations or which contributed positively in many areas of the human knowledge, Arabs and Amerindians being among them for example.
It's also undeniable that we Europids made a lot of mistakes, some of them lead us to a delay in our development through history of thousands of years. IMO the best example is the Edict of Milano, which is the adoption of a religion completely diferent from the actual European culture of that time. I won't deny as well the fact that jews showed an amazing intelligence many times and we didn't realise of that, thus leading to the present situation.
These two following posts of mine show better my ideas:
http://forums.skadi.net/would_world_...ros#post704628 http://forums.skadi.net/anti_semitis...ros#post715189
Do you Chinese all agree with my viewpoint?
haha.... |
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作者:朱衡 |
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留言时间:2012-07-27 20:13:17 |
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好文。我本来打算在下一篇博文里提及这一现象,有博主此文,则可免其烦。谢博主之劳。
只要稍微分析,即可轻易得知这些人的生活状态和心理状态两方面,均自相矛盾。众所周知,在欧美国家生活的第一代华人移民,极不可能在西人面前忽悠此等言论,我料定这些人没有这种胆量。这些人的生活与心理必定时刻处于挣扎之中,是毫无疑问的。
种族主义或大国沙文主义言论,只在华人圈子中散布,显然意义不大。
这些人生活在欧美社会,竟不知种族主义之危害,亦不思此种言论最可能反噬移民,何其怪也。至于此种族主义观念定然会祸及我中华民族的复兴伟业,要么是这些人认识能力有限,要么是有意为之。
此等言论,和攻击我中华民族的数典忘祖分子,可称为民族意识形态方面的左右两种极端。这两种言行极可鄙,无论其行何种口实,或人种,或文化,或国家实力,或宗教,本质皆一。
在欧美仅接受了研究生教育的人士数不尽数。但是,其中有极小一部分人,这样的教育背景很可能对其特异的种族观念并无助益。研究生教学中,许多专业因为自身特点,不需要进一步传授人文观念,因为本科教育应已经完成这一教育目的。当然,即使某些人有人文方面的教育经历,也可能仍无效果,盖人类之本性使然,说教亦无益。 |
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作者:sfan6 |
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留言时间:2012-07-27 19:55:29 |
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作者:华山 |
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留言时间:2012-07-27 18:59:24 |
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有点同感。譬如那位说美国人“绝不做老二”的奥巴,就有些许底气不足。 |
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